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Old Mon Apr 03, 2017, 10:45pm
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Call on the floor was a held ball.
Was Meeks OOB?
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Old Mon Apr 03, 2017, 10:50pm
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Call on the floor was a held ball.
Was Meeks OOB?
I saw that too. His right arm was out of bounds while he was in contact with the ball.
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Old Mon Apr 03, 2017, 11:39pm
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Call on the floor was a held ball.
Was Meeks OOB?
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I saw that too. His right arm was out of bounds while he was in contact with the ball.
Can't fault Eades for that IMO, Meeks' arm was OOB for tenths of a second, while he was watching for a held ball between two and then three players.
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Old Mon Apr 03, 2017, 11:46pm
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Can't fault Eades for that IMO, Meeks' arm was OOB for tenths of a second, while he was watching for a held ball between two and then three players.
except it wasn't a held ball when he was OOB
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Old Tue Apr 04, 2017, 12:05am
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except it wasn't a held ball when he was OOB
So? He was still watching to see if it got held or not.
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Old Tue Apr 04, 2017, 08:48am
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So? He was still watching to see if it got held or not.
And he still missed it.

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Old Tue Apr 04, 2017, 12:14am
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Can't fault Eades for that IMO, Meeks' arm was OOB for tenths of a second, while he was watching for a held ball between two and then three players.
Do you think he faults himself for missing it?
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Old Tue Apr 04, 2017, 03:17am
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Call on the floor was a held ball.
Was Meeks OOB?
Officiating at this level has become so difficult. The HDTV cameras have all the angles and the slo-mo to catch everything which we humans miss in live action from our vantage point. I used to think that I wanted to work the ESPN games and the D1 tournament someday. Not anymore. I don't want that kind of scrutiny and the BS that Higgins had to deal with from the Kentucky fans. It just isn't worth it. Besides there's more money in coaching.

As for my above quoted post...yep, Meeks was out of bounds. Photos of it have now been published. Unfortunate, and not reviewable.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/of...064537595.html
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Old Tue Apr 04, 2017, 08:06am
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So as officials, the key to all the video being shown with the scrutiny of how "bad" they called the game isn't always going to be judgement calls where, was it a foul or not a foul? Was he in or out? Yes, the video will show it and it will be "obvious" at that point. But in real time, we all know this is a difficult job to process all that is happening i.e. the hand touching the out-of-bounds on the tie up. Watch that play in real time and you'll see how quickly his hand hit and was pulled back.

The key with the video is the positioning and many great officials understand this. To get calls correct, you need to be in the proper positioning. Eades may not have seen the hand because he was too close to the play as it was right at his feet. Backing out with a wider angle may have allowed him to see the hand touch.

The first foul of the game from the Slot, did he even have an angle to see the play? Was he reaching out of his primary. What was the vantage point from T? Where was each official looking on that play at that time?

We know every call and non call will be looked at because of the tape these days, but it's how you use the tape to your advantage to get better and not worry about how it will be microscoped and used against you.
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Old Tue Apr 04, 2017, 08:15am
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So as officials, the key to all the video being shown with the scrutiny of how "bad" they called the game isn't always going to be judgement calls where, was it a foul or not a foul? Was he in or out? Yes, the video will show it and it will be "obvious" at that point. But in real time, we all know this is a difficult job to process all that is happening i.e. the hand touching the out-of-bounds on the tie up. Watch that play in real time and you'll see how quickly his hand hit and was pulled back.

The key with the video is the positioning and many great officials understand this. To get calls correct, you need to be in the proper positioning. Eades may not have seen the hand because he was too close to the play as it was right at his feet. Backing out with a wider angle may have allowed him to see the hand touch.

The first foul of the game from the Slot, did he even have an angle to see the play? Was he reaching out of his primary. What was the vantage point from T? Where was each official looking on that play at that time?

We know every call and non call will be looked at because of the tape these days, but it's how you use the tape to your advantage to get better and not worry about how it will be microscoped and used against you.
Conversations about positioning die on the vine pretty quickly....LOL
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Old Tue Apr 04, 2017, 09:56am
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Call on the floor was a held ball.
Was Meeks OOB?


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Old Tue Apr 04, 2017, 09:58am
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Flagrant Foul Review (Video coming)

I have the video in place, I am going to wait little before I post it. I think this play will be tagged by YouTube and want to see if I can do it later in the week.

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