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Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 01:58pm
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Play#2 - There was no screen, Florida play just ran into the Wisconsin player. If the player is running around a player do you call a foul on the guy holding the ball?
It is a screen by rule and interpretation. He passes off the ball so he is subjected to some screening rules. But he does not turn into the screened player and gives enough time and distance. It is not unusual in these pass off situations to have the ball handler soon to not be ball handler to kind of cause contact with the defender coming at them. This IMO was totally legal and he was turning away from contact. If turning toward contact, then we might have had a different result.

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It is a screen by rule and interpretation. He passes off the ball so he is subjected to some screening rules. But he does not turn into the screened player and gives enough time and distance. It is not unusual in these pass off situations to have the ball handler soon to not be ball handler to kind of cause contact with the defender coming at them. This IMO was totally legal and he was turning away from contact. If turning toward contact, then we might have had a different result.

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He was going to pass off the ball but was run into by the Florida player first. Therefore there is no attempted screen. You can't penalize him because of what he was going to do but by what the defender did prior to any handoff.

I don't disagree with your interpretation of the rule.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 02:11pm
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He was going to pass off the ball but was run into by the Florida player first. Therefore there is no attempted screen. You can't penalize him because of what he was going to do but by what the defender did prior to any handoff.

I don't disagree with your interpretation of the rule.
I did not say anything about penalizing him if he was legal as he was in this play. But handoff screens are common and usually result in nothing, this was just an example. But it is a screen a the same rules apply. If he had kept coming forward and knocked down the defender, then I would have advocated for a foul. And that is why I think they showed a replay of the situation to show that the Wisconsin player was legal.

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I did not say anything about penalizing him if he was legal as he was in this play. But handoff screens are common and usually result in nothing, this was just an example. But it is a screen a the same rules apply. If he had kept coming forward and knocked down the defender, then I would have advocated for a foul. And that is why I think they showed a replay of the situation to show that the Wisconsin player was legal.

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Got it, thanks for the explanation.
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Got it, thanks for the explanation.
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He was going to pass off the ball but was run into by the Florida player first. Therefore there is no attempted screen. You can't penalize him because of what he was going to do but by what the defender did prior to any handoff.

I don't disagree with your interpretation of the rule.
Whether he has the ball or not, it is still a screen. That said, it was a legal screen....good no call.
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