The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #46 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 08:26am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgerfan2 View Post
15 min left 2nd half phantom foul on happ
Wow, what a great description of the play.

And is there going to be a video request for every block/charge call in the tournament?
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR

Last edited by Raymond; Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 08:59am.
Reply With Quote
  #47 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 08:30am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post


Peace
I don't call travels when I can't see the ball.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #48 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 08:33am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post


Peace
Contact from behind on a ball-handler that causes him to go to the floor used to be one of John Adams' absolutes. The Center should be primary on this, but the Trail can get this also.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR

Last edited by Raymond; Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 09:00am.
Reply With Quote
  #49 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 08:38am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuelrider View Post
Beginning of OT off the tip, Foul called no team or player control Florida goes to free throw line arrow is switched? What just happened?
The arrow was not pointed in anybody's Direction when overtime started so it could not have been switched. As already explained it was set at the proper time.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR

Last edited by Raymond; Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 09:00am.
Reply With Quote
  #50 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 08:49am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post


Peace
I can see giving the defender the foul based on a lack of verticality.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #51 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 08:58am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post


Peace
Foul occurs before Hayes completes his spin move, so I don't know how anybody could say this is a travel.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #52 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 10:06am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 528
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
Foul occurs before Hayes completes his spin move, so I don't know how anybody could say this is a travel.
Because they absolutely would have counted the hoop had it gone in.
Reply With Quote
  #53 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 10:55am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: In the offseason.
Posts: 12,260
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
Wow, what a great description of the play.

And is there going to be a video request for every block/charge call in the tournament?
I doubt it since Wisconsin is now out. His only posts, ever, were about players where Wisconsin didn't get the call.
__________________
Owner/Developer of RefTown.com
Commissioner, Portland Basketball Officials Association
Reply With Quote
  #54 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 01:09pm
SAJ SAJ is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 183
There was a travel called in the Baylor/SC game. I don't have the specific time, but it was in the first half (probably somewhere around the 8-10 minute mark, but I could be wrong). Baylor player near the free throw line pivots a couple times then pivots towards the basket and shoots. It didn't appear that he ever moved his pivot foot other than to shoot. Both the T&C whistled with T taking the travel call. There wasn't a replay, so I didn't get second look.
Reply With Quote
  #55 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 01:29pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,472
Random Plays from Wisconsin vs. Florida Game

Play #1: Goaltending play



Play #2: Pass off screen



Play #3: Pass and crash play



Play #4: Legal spin move?



Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)

Last edited by JRutledge; Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 01:36pm.
Reply With Quote
  #56 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 01:52pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
Random Plays from Wisconsin vs. Florida Game

Play #1: Goaltending play

Play #2: Pass off screen

Play #3: Pass and crash play

Play #4: Legal spin move?

Peace
Play#1 - good call, on the way down
Play#2 - There was no screen, Florida play just ran into the Wisconsin player. If the player is running around a player do you call a foul on the guy holding the ball?
Play#3 - The lead wanted this to be offensive in a bad way but did a great job of holding off his call because the center was wrong.
Play#4 - Nice spin move, looked good
__________________
"He who says he can and he who says he can't are both usually correct." - Confucius
Reply With Quote
  #57 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 01:58pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,472
Quote:
Originally Posted by RefRich View Post
Play#2 - There was no screen, Florida play just ran into the Wisconsin player. If the player is running around a player do you call a foul on the guy holding the ball?
It is a screen by rule and interpretation. He passes off the ball so he is subjected to some screening rules. But he does not turn into the screened player and gives enough time and distance. It is not unusual in these pass off situations to have the ball handler soon to not be ball handler to kind of cause contact with the defender coming at them. This IMO was totally legal and he was turning away from contact. If turning toward contact, then we might have had a different result.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #58 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 02:03pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
It is a screen by rule and interpretation. He passes off the ball so he is subjected to some screening rules. But he does not turn into the screened player and gives enough time and distance. It is not unusual in these pass off situations to have the ball handler soon to not be ball handler to kind of cause contact with the defender coming at them. This IMO was totally legal and he was turning away from contact. If turning toward contact, then we might have had a different result.

Peace
He was going to pass off the ball but was run into by the Florida player first. Therefore there is no attempted screen. You can't penalize him because of what he was going to do but by what the defender did prior to any handoff.

I don't disagree with your interpretation of the rule.
__________________
"He who says he can and he who says he can't are both usually correct." - Confucius
Reply With Quote
  #59 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 02:07pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,472
More from Wisconsin vs. Florida

Play #5:



Play #6:



Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #60 (permalink)  
Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 02:11pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,472
Quote:
Originally Posted by RefRich View Post
He was going to pass off the ball but was run into by the Florida player first. Therefore there is no attempted screen. You can't penalize him because of what he was going to do but by what the defender did prior to any handoff.

I don't disagree with your interpretation of the rule.
I did not say anything about penalizing him if he was legal as he was in this play. But handoff screens are common and usually result in nothing, this was just an example. But it is a screen a the same rules apply. If he had kept coming forward and knocked down the defender, then I would have advocated for a foul. And that is why I think they showed a replay of the situation to show that the Wisconsin player was legal.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
NCAA Tourn - Thursday March 22 Video Requests JRutledge Basketball 42 Fri Mar 24, 2017 04:25pm
NCAA Tournament Video Requests - Saturday March 18 JRutledge Basketball 55 Wed Mar 22, 2017 07:42am
NCAA Tournament Video Requests - Sunday March 19 JRutledge Basketball 51 Wed Mar 22, 2017 07:40am
NCAA Tournament Video Requests - Friday March 17 JRutledge Basketball 15 Mon Mar 20, 2017 04:03pm
NCAA Tournament Video Requests - Thursday March 16 Nevadaref Basketball 15 Sun Mar 19, 2017 06:17pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:14am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1