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Old Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:46pm
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NIT: Illinois at UCF video request

Charging foul called with 1 second remaining in the first half.
The officials did not count the basket.
Was that the correct decision?
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Old Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:12pm
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Without seeing the video, you cannot count a basket on a charge. The rule is the same as the NF rule now.

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Old Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:59pm
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Without seeing the video, you cannot count a basket on a charge. The rule is the same as the NF rule now.
Ok, must have been one of the changes prior to last season.
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Old Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:22pm
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The rule is the same as the NF rule now.
Both NCAA men and women? No more count the basket and let's go shoot one and one down the other end?
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Old Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:18pm
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Here is the play.



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Old Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:37pm
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Like the defender, I am leaning towards a block. But, that was not the topic of the OP. Indeed, PC foul negates basket.
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Old Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:00am
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Like the defender, I am leaning towards a block. But, that was not the topic of the OP. Indeed, PC foul negates basket.
It is not like this would be the first time we talked about something else on one of these videos. That being said, since we cleared up the rule change, if you want to talk about that part, then talk about it.

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Old Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:16am
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It is not like this would be the first time we talked about something else on one of these videos. That being said, since we cleared up the rule change, if you want to talk about that part, then talk about it.

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I paused the vid at 20, when I feel the shooter began the gather/shot. Defender moves both feet and then we have a collision. Tough call in my opinion and can't argue either way. Again, I'm thinking block. Now, what really bugs me is the L rotating when he did. If the L stays, I think the L has a much better view than the calling official.
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Old Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:06am
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Wth is Lead doing??
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Old Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:22am
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I paused the vid at 20, when I feel the shooter began the gather/shot. Defender moves both feet and then we have a collision. Tough call in my opinion and can't argue either way. Again, I'm thinking block. Now, what really bugs me is the L rotating when he did. If the L stays, I think the L has a much better view than the calling official.
How does the shooter beginning the gather/shot matter? The defender is only required to have LGP before the shooter leaves the floor which is well after the gather and start of the shooting motion.

Also, why does a defender moving his feet matter? The defender isn't required to be stationary but is simply required to be in the path. Subsequent foot movement that doesn't move the defender into the path and doesn't move the defender towards the opponent is not illegal. The defender could do the jitterbug as long as he meets the other criteria.

I do have this as a block because I do believe the defender not only moved his feet but in doing so moved INTO the path of the shooter after the shooter was airborne. That is what makes it a block.
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Old Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:19am
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Wth is Lead doing??
Curious to what happened prior to start of video? The "true" C is at half court and T is at free throw line extended, right or wrong I think this is why L felt need to rotate completely away from play that came right at him. Just curious
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Old Thu Mar 23, 2017, 07:20am
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I like the charge call here.

The player does move once the player is airborne but its a side step to ensure that his chest is what takes the players body not his shoulder or head (also to ensure that the contact is not glancing if the offensive player contorts). He can move to protect himself. He does not establish a new spot or move into a new path once the player is airborne, just repositions himself within the spot he's already claimed. ie. he got narrower
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Old Thu Mar 23, 2017, 07:56am
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Block. Defender moves forward and into the shooter after the offensive player is airborne.
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Old Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:49am
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Here is the very next play (Video)



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Old Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:21pm
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No foul. No travel. Correct no call.
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