Pac-12 Tournament (Video Request and video)

[JRutledge]

Play #1:


Play #2:


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[JRutledge]

Play #3: This was earlier than the two other videos


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[Dale3]

2nd video - appears 0 white asks for timeout before 5 second violation.

The 5 second violation seems a little sketchy to me. It appears the official only does 4 counts, and even blows his whistle after the ball is released.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dale3

2nd video - appears 0 white asks for timeout before 5 second violation.

The 5 second violation seems a little sketchy to me. It appears the official only does 4 counts, and even blows his whistle after the ball is released.

If you have the violation, then go with the violation regardless of the release of the ball. But the count did seem rather quick.

Peace

[bucky]

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

Play #7:



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[Camron Rust]

Play 6: Technically BI since the ball was in the basket but that and similar plays are often passed on. The ball was in and was not coming out. Any slight contact with the rim at that point was not going to have any effect on the shot.

Play 7 #1. The defender did just just as contact was beginning but I think contact occurred before he left the floor. He didn't really jump to play the ball but did so, halfheartedly, as an afterthought to avoid an RA block. This exposes the flaw in the RA rules with defenders jumping. It adds one more layer of complexity. Did he jump in time and did he really jump?

Play 7 #2. Good downgrade. At most, that was a minor nudge. A foul for sure but not even close to a flagrant 1 IMO.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Play #7:



Peace

I have no idea why they downgraded it. That's an easy flagrant-1 once you go to the monitor.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you have the violation, then go with the violation regardless of the release of the ball. But the count did seem rather quick.

Peace

About 5.5 seconds based on my count.

[bucky]

ESPN: With 9:47 to play, Trier(AZ) makes a full-court layup and teammate grabs rim/net as ball still in net. Nothing called but looked like obvious BI.

[bucky]

ESPN: With 3:22 (think) to go, drive down left middle and T ref calls a block, via restricted area, on secondary defender. Was the secondary defender in the air or grounded?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

About 5.5 seconds based on my count.

Are you saying the L should have called that instead of the timeout?

[Rich]

No, but his count WASN'T fast.....that's what I was saying.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

No, but his count WASN'T fast.....that's what I was saying.

I know....just messing with ya.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 9:47 to play, Trier(AZ) makes a full-court layup and teammate grabs rim/net as ball still in net. Nothing called but looked like obvious BI.

Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 3:22 (think) to go, drive down left middle and T ref calls a block, via restricted area, on secondary defender. Was the secondary defender in the air or grounded?

What game?

Peace