Pac-12 Tournament (Video Request and video)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dale3

2nd video - appears 0 white asks for timeout before 5 second violation.

The 5 second violation seems a little sketchy to me. It appears the official only does 4 counts, and even blows his whistle after the ball is released.

If you have the violation, then go with the violation regardless of the release of the ball. But the count did seem rather quick.

Peace

[bucky]

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

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Peace

[Camron Rust]

Play 6: Technically BI since the ball was in the basket but that and similar plays are often passed on. The ball was in and was not coming out. Any slight contact with the rim at that point was not going to have any effect on the shot.

Play 7 #1. The defender did just just as contact was beginning but I think contact occurred before he left the floor. He didn't really jump to play the ball but did so, halfheartedly, as an afterthought to avoid an RA block. This exposes the flaw in the RA rules with defenders jumping. It adds one more layer of complexity. Did he jump in time and did he really jump?

Play 7 #2. Good downgrade. At most, that was a minor nudge. A foul for sure but not even close to a flagrant 1 IMO.

[JRutledge]

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Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Play #8:

Peace

Great call. LGP gained a long time before contact. Moved legally to maintain it. I wish we'd be more consistent with that.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Great call. LGP gained a long time before contact. Moved legally to maintain it. I wish we'd be more consistent with that.

I concur. Sadly, the announcers are totally wrong and that spreads further misinformation to the viewing public.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

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Peace

I have no idea why they downgraded it. That's an easy flagrant-1 once you go to the monitor.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I have no idea why they downgraded it. That's an easy flagrant-1 once you go to the monitor.

I think he was just trying to kind of bump him like a defender would do normally and did not see his arm movement any more than just that. I do not think he was throwing a blow at all. But I see why it was called initially for sure. I have mixed feelings on the downgrade, but I understand.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think he was just trying to kind of bump him like a defender would do normally and did not see his arm movement any more than just that. I do not think he was throwing a blow at all. But I see why it was called initially for sure. I have mixed feelings on the downgrade, but I understand.

Peace

I agree. The contact was really nothing more than a basic handcheck or push.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you have the violation, then go with the violation regardless of the release of the ball. But the count did seem rather quick.

Peace

About 5.5 seconds based on my count.

[bucky]

ESPN: With 9:47 to play, Trier(AZ) makes a full-court layup and teammate grabs rim/net as ball still in net. Nothing called but looked like obvious BI.

[bucky]

ESPN: With 3:22 (think) to go, drive down left middle and T ref calls a block, via restricted area, on secondary defender. Was the secondary defender in the air or grounded?

[Camron Rust]

Play 1. OOB. It appeared that the UCLA player knocked the ball away from the Arizona player but that it may have rolled off of the UA player's fingers last. Not conclusive on the video, so they must stay with what they had.

Play 2. Great job on the timeout. Great awareness by the L. I couldn't tell which whistle was sounded first. The L's reaction, like many to timeout requests, was almost certainly delayed and thus the recognition of the timeout would have been first.

Play 3. Another good call. Possession certainly didn't change.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 9:47 to play, Trier(AZ) makes a full-court layup and teammate grabs rim/net as ball still in net. Nothing called but looked like obvious BI.

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Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 3:22 (think) to go, drive down left middle and T ref calls a block, via restricted area, on secondary defender. Was the secondary defender in the air or grounded?

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Peace