Pac-12 Tournament (Video Request and video)

[bucky]

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

Play #7:



Peace

[Camron Rust]

Play 6: Technically BI since the ball was in the basket but that and similar plays are often passed on. The ball was in and was not coming out. Any slight contact with the rim at that point was not going to have any effect on the shot.

Play 7 #1. The defender did just just as contact was beginning but I think contact occurred before he left the floor. He didn't really jump to play the ball but did so, halfheartedly, as an afterthought to avoid an RA block. This exposes the flaw in the RA rules with defenders jumping. It adds one more layer of complexity. Did he jump in time and did he really jump?

Play 7 #2. Good downgrade. At most, that was a minor nudge. A foul for sure but not even close to a flagrant 1 IMO.

[JRutledge]

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Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Play #8:

Peace

Great call. LGP gained a long time before contact. Moved legally to maintain it. I wish we'd be more consistent with that.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Great call. LGP gained a long time before contact. Moved legally to maintain it. I wish we'd be more consistent with that.

I concur. Sadly, the announcers are totally wrong and that spreads further misinformation to the viewing public.

[wyo96]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I concur. Sadly, the announcers are totally wrong and that spreads further misinformation to the viewing public.

To call Bill Walton an announcer is an insult to all announcers... He is terrible. Just talks to hear his own voice and thinks he is funny when he is insulting. I can't watch a game that he is on.

PS: Great call. I love it....

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bucky

ESPN: With 15:59 remaining in 2nd half, AZ player initially called for a flagrant 1 foul. After review, downgraded to common foul. F1 in my mind.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

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Peace

I have no idea why they downgraded it. That's an easy flagrant-1 once you go to the monitor.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I have no idea why they downgraded it. That's an easy flagrant-1 once you go to the monitor.

I think he was just trying to kind of bump him like a defender would do normally and did not see his arm movement any more than just that. I do not think he was throwing a blow at all. But I see why it was called initially for sure. I have mixed feelings on the downgrade, but I understand.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think he was just trying to kind of bump him like a defender would do normally and did not see his arm movement any more than just that. I do not think he was throwing a blow at all. But I see why it was called initially for sure. I have mixed feelings on the downgrade, but I understand.

Peace

I agree. The contact was really nothing more than a basic handcheck or push.