1.9 Sec left in Playoff game TO Granted with none left leads to Coach Ejection (Video

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually it was the partner that gave the T. But why it took that long is beyond me. I think this is why we have to get rid of the addige, "We should not give both Ts on a coach." That has always been silly to me and here is why it is silly. And I would not have been backing up all the way across the court either.



Peace

I assigned 2 games where an official double tapped the coach. In both instances, it's cause the official felt like it was his duty to get close to the table and report the technical like it was just another foul.

This doesn't fit that scenario. That coach needed to go.....sooner.

[JRutledge]

Here is the kid requesting a timeout.



Peace

[Rich]

And where did the official go after the first technical?

Over to the table.

Is there anyone in the building that *didn't* know what happened there?

I wish officials would STOP doing that.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rich

And where did the official go after the first technical?

Over to the table.

Is there anyone in the building that *didn't* know what happened there?

I wish officials would STOP doing that.

Don't make an excuse for the coach's crap behavior Rich. Although I would have just T'd and reported from where I stood, this coach's behavior stands on it's own. As soon as I take 4-5 steps away and notice he's coming after me, he's done. I would've tossed my partner too for that crappy attempt at helping out.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

Don't make an excuse for the coach's crap behavior Rich. Although I would have just T'd and reported from where I stood, this coach's behavior stands on it's own. As soon as I take 4-5 steps away and notice he's coming after me, he's done. I would've tossed my partner too for that crappy attempt at helping out.

Not a single excuse made for the coach. He lasted longer than he should've.

This is an independent observation I've made a few times this season, including last night when I called a head coach technical and my partner asked me "did you report it"?

No, I brought my hands together into a T and hit my whistle. Everyone knew, including the table and the coach. I went right to the C to get opposite the table. If he wants to get me, he's gonna have to come a long way.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

And where did the official go after the first technical?

Over to the table.

Is there anyone in the building that *didn't* know what happened there?

I wish officials would STOP doing that.

What do you want the official to do--skip the reporting of the technical foul to the scorer?

Originally Posted by Rich

Not a single excuse made for the coach. He lasted longer than he should've.

This is an independent observation I've made a few times this season, including last night when I called a head coach technical and my partner asked me "did you report it"?

No, I brought my hands together into a T and hit my whistle. Everyone knew, including the table and the coach. I went right to the C to get opposite the table. If he wants to get me, he's gonna have to come a long way.

I guess so.

You are wrong and everyone knows it. Sad that you push this incorrect advice upon the officials whom you assign.

[newladyref]

Did anyone notice number 1 talking to the official before the free throw? Looks like he was telling him that he was going to call the time out ahead of time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Not a single excuse made for the coach. He lasted longer than he should've.

This is an independent observation I've made a few times this season, including last night when I called a head coach technical and my partner asked me "did you report it"?

No, I brought my hands together into a T and hit my whistle. Everyone knew, including the table and the coach. I went right to the C to get opposite the table. If he wants to get me, he's gonna have to come a long way.

This has me thinking. I've had exactly 1 double tap, and as it happens, I was right in front of the bench the entire time. It was on an AC, though, so I'm not sure it was avoidable since it all happened so fast.

I called the first one, and happened to be in front of his bench. As I made the call and turned to the table to make the report, he started the sarcastic cheering that earned him his 2nd. I wonder, had I immediately started walking to administer the FTs, would he have taken the opportunity to settle down?

In that game (6th grade boys travel league in the summer), I doubt it.

[ballgame99]

One game because he didn't use profanity and didn't make contact with the official? That is BS. He came all the way across the court and physically intimidated and made contact with the official. Easily should be worth a 3 game suspension under the parameters laid out in the article.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

This has me thinking. I've had exactly 1 double tap, and as it happens, I was right in front of the bench the entire time. It was on an AC, though, so I'm not sure it was avoidable since it all happened so fast.

I called the first one, and happened to be in front of his bench. As I made the call and turned to the table to make the report, he started the sarcastic cheering that earned him his 2nd. I wonder, had I immediately started walking to administer the FTs, would he have taken the opportunity to settle down?

In that game (6th grade boys travel league in the summer), I doubt it.

I don't think anything would've changed on the play in this thread. Just something that came to mind with how direct bench technicals are handled based on my experiences. If what I say doesn't make others in this thread think for a second, at least, so be it.

On the timeout technical, I would've been right at the table, certainly. I would've reported the timeout, would've given the number of the player, and would've communicated that and the technical foul to the coach. If the coach blows up AT ME there, there's not much I can do about it. I didn't call the timeout, after all.

I wouldn't back away from a charging coach waiting for my partner to give the second technical (keeping in mind, I'm likely in the C position already) as the official did in this video. Perhaps it's expected there that no official hits a coach with both....and this video, perhaps, is a good example of why having a formal policy on it is not really a good idea.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Here is the kid requesting a timeout.



Peace

Not sure I want to pour gasoline on this fire, but in any other circumstance, #1 should be getting a T too, for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.

Also, in reference to Rich's comment about coaches believing teenagers over professionals, you're right, but I wouldn't be surprised if the coach never sees THIS film. Unfortunately, I bet he watches his manager's sideline film, doesn't see clear evidence of the timeout request, and still thinks he's right. Too bad.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Not sure I want to pour gasoline on this fire, but in any other circumstance, #1 should be getting a T too, for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.
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I'm confident that at that point, many of the blue team members were fully authorized to leave at any time.

[walt]

Here is a follow up article on the game. The Foothills team still advanced because of the playoff structure but apparently played their next game without the head coach due to a one game suspension. The coach comments on the player calling timeout. Obviously in the heat of the moment, his emotions got the best of him.

Foothills Christian coach suspended one game - The San Diego Union-Tribune

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by walt

Here is a follow up article on the game. The Foothills team still advanced because of the playoff structure but apparently played their next game without the head coach due to a one game suspension. The coach comments on the player calling timeout. Obviously in the heat of the moment, his emotions got the best of him.

Foothills Christian coach suspended one game - The San Diego Union-Tribune

Quote from the ejected coaches AD at the end of the article:

Honestly, I think the situation could have been handled better on both sides — ours and the officials.

What the heck does he think the officials could have/should have done differently?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

What the heck does he think the officials could have/should have done differently?

My thoughts exactly.