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Old Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:32pm
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If I'm the L, I'm thinking I have a foul on that for the textbook hand check.
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:44pm
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That's a foul depending on how the game had been called up to that point. However that contact didn't lead to the turnover.
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:54pm
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From the angle in the video, I don't see a foul. I'm not saying there isn't one but I wouldn't make a foul call from the angle available. His arm appear to be tucked in against his own body until he pulled it out an up. Given a view from the endline or the other side, I could easily change my mind.
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2017, 06:18pm
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While I'd likely have a foul on this play, it doesn't seem like something worth getting all worked up over and earning a tech.
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2017, 02:00pm
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From the angle in the video, I don't see a foul. I'm not saying there isn't one but I wouldn't make a foul call from the angle available. His arm appear to be tucked in against his own body until he pulled it out an up. Given a view from the endline or the other side, I could easily change my mind.
I don't see anything either from this angle. I see some acting, but not much else.
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2017, 02:49pm
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The defender doesn't have LGP and clearly impedes the ball handler.

Him choosing that path means nothing to me. The defender isn't legal.
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2017, 06:46pm
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When I see a player throw his head back, when the supposed contact was on his torso - in this case on his left shoulder - I'm immediately aware that the player is trying to convince me that the contact was more than he or I perceived. If the supposed contact had been sufficient to disturb his rsbq, his torso would have been turned, to some extent, away from that contact. I don't see that.
And then, the ballhandler makes the pass towards his teammate with his left hand, the hand on the side that supposedly received the contact from the defender. Not great acting, and to use a boxing term, the defender "slipped the punch" - that is, the contact that almost occurred, of the left shoulders of the two players = a good no-call.
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2017, 09:50pm
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If all that goes through your head in the split-second you have to make a call, then you are an official savant.
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Old Wed Mar 01, 2017, 02:30am
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The defender doesn't have LGP and clearly impedes the ball handler.

Him choosing that path means nothing to me. The defender isn't legal.
Didn't have LGP??? LGP is one of the few things I'm sure of form the video. I feel he clearly had it and moved laterally afterwards to maintain it. Perhaps he lost it at the last second as the shooter starts to get by him...is that what you're saying?
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Old Wed Mar 01, 2017, 07:27am
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Didn't have LGP??? LGP is one of the few things I'm sure of form the video. I feel he clearly had it and moved laterally afterwards to maintain it. Perhaps he lost it at the last second as the shooter starts to get by him...is that what you're saying?

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Old Mon Feb 27, 2017, 10:57pm
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If I'm the L, I'm thinking I have a foul on that for the textbook hand check.
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Defender bites on the initial fake. After contact, offensive player can do nothing but pass, which results in a TO. If L calls a foul, literally nothing incorrect or bad happens. Only person that would be mad with that call is the defender because he knew he fell for the fake.
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