Ball off Face!

[dabard]

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[Rich]

The lead official looks really engaged. Is he even counting?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

The lead official looks really engaged. Is he even counting?

No he is not. And the coach is yelling at the wrong official as well.

Peace

[WhistlesAndStripes]

That's an awful quick T when, IMO, the coach had a pretty valid point.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

That's an awful quick T when, IMO, the coach had a pretty valid point.

Do you have any idea what the coach said?

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Rich

Do you have any idea what the coach said?

No I don't, and perhaps it contained some magic words, but after such a huge miss by his partner, I certainly would have a little longer leash even for some of the magic words.

[Rich]

Look like the lead got the out of bounds call correct.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Rich

Look like the lead got the out of bounds call correct.

Agreed.

But do you really think that bouncing the ball off of the defender's face should have been a no-call?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

No I don't, and perhaps it contained some magic words, but after such a huge miss by his partner, I certainly would have a little longer leash even for some of the magic words.

That assumes that the official giving the T even saw the play. It is very possible he is looking at the other 8 players on the floor or some other match-up that he would not have seen this play. So I do not blame him for this situation at all.

Peace

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

No I don't, and perhaps it contained some magic words, but after such a huge miss by his partner, I certainly would have a little longer leash even for some of the magic words.

If the Trail has more than a peripheral look at that play then he's not doing his job officiating the rest of the court. Potentially missing something isn't carte blanche for the HC to say whatever he wants.

[so cal lurker]

So what would the proper call be here?

[Robert E. Harrison]

Illegal use of opponent's face. Unsporting Technical on thrower.

[Dale3]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

So what would the proper call be here?

I'd like to see a technical foul on A1 for an "unsporting foul". If this is intentional, which it clearly looks to be, its a no brainier tech.

2 shots and the ball for Red (NFHS).

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That assumes that the official giving the T even saw the play. It is very possible he is looking at the other 8 players on the floor or some other match-up that he would not have seen this play. So I do not blame him for this situation at all.

Peace

I agree that he has other primary responsibilities, but if you look at the first angle, it appears that this is a 2 man crew. The other 6 of the other 8 players are all below the free throw line, and it even appears that the trail is looking through the court and would have had some view of what just occurred.

Originally Posted by Welpe

If the Trail has more than a peripheral look at that play then he's not doing his job officiating the rest of the court. Potentially missing something isn't carte blanche for the HC to say whatever he wants.

Again, based on the first angle show, I think the trail can do his job while still having a decent look at what happened.

I'm not saying the coach can do/say whatever he wants, but I think you have to give him a little leeway given the situation. Again, we don't know what was said exactly. Maybe there were some magic word expressed. I just think it was a quick trigger given the play.

[LRZ]

It appears to me as if the L was looking right at the two players involved. My conjecture is that it caught him off-guard and he just didn't react. But he might have bought himself some time if, realizing that something troublesome had occurred, he went to his partner to talk it over briefly. One of those "partner, just nod your head as I'm talking to you" conversations.