Hard foul, intentional, flagrant ? (HS)

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I have to say I only commented because I've never heard "can't call a held ball if it comes loose before feet hit floor."

I think the NCAA and NFHS rules are different on this.

I don't have the time to research it.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think the NCAA and NFHS rules are different on this.

I don't have the time to research it.

Well great. I guess I'll look it up. I thought about it tonight and in this kind of game, not much above rim play, no leapers...I can see where it does make some sense. Contact and length of it likely not long enough on the avg turnaround jumper if ball comes out before hitting ground.

I just focus up top more. Foreign to me to do it.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think the NCAA and NFHS rules are different on this.

I don't have the time to research it.

Well, I'll be (how about u be instead) damned. The NCAAM rule does say prevent player from throwing or releasing on a try AND returning to floor with it etc.

I'll fine myself $20. Bucky, plz cover that for me.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I'll fine myself $20. Bucky, plz cover that for me.

Sigh.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by bucky

Sigh.

I'll pay you back....Tuesday.

Ps. WE are lucky I didn't bet longhorn on the college version of the rule...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Well, I'll be (how about u be instead) damned. The NCAAM rule does say prevent player from throwing or releasing on a try AND returning to floor with it etc.

I'll fine myself $20. Bucky, plz cover that for me.

Same in NCAAW. Make the fine $40.

[PAlbc]

If you look at the contact by the trail defender I think it's a reasonable shooting foul. The defender under the basket (#4) is a bit trickier because you can't see how the contact is made on the offensive player.

If the foul was called on #4, then I could see how they might upgrade to an IF. He makes the contact up high on the arm, then takes the contact all the way through to the ground. He still has #11w's right arm held almost until both of his own hands have hit the ground.

Again, this is only going by the angle of this video, but I would guess the officials decided that #4 had continued contact and force all the way through to the ground.

If the foul was called on the trail defender, then I have no idea how to call it an IF.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Same in NCAAW. Make the fine $40.

Well, I should appeal the doubling of that fine....but I won't. Could have been much higher. I should have known that....