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Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 01:32pm
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Kansas @ Kansas State plays (Video)

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Play #3:


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Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 02:13pm
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plays

Plays 1 and 2; continuous upward motion.
Play 3. dead ball -after A/P got too players, kept cool, took their time to make the right call.
Play 4. Ball did not hit the line.
Play 5. Not in R/A!
Play 6. Not a kicked ball! No intent to kick.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 02:49pm
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1 and 2: I think both are continuous / upward motion. In each scenario dribbler has ended dribble and in my opinion started shooting process. At least the call is consistent on both ends.

3. I have no problem with how this held ball and aftermath was officiated

4. Clearly doesn't hit line - easy get with slow motion zoomed in replay - tough play in real time

5. Why do we think this an RA block? I think the lead just has a regular block, he never points at RA. As far as block / charge goes, I had to watch the slow motion replay 3 times to see if he was legal before offense left the court, if I have to do that, then I'm okay with the either call on the court.

6. Clearly missed kick ball call. The Lead official is completely straight lined on this call. Good lesson here to trust your partner, the C has a much better look from his angle, and he does not have a whistle.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 02:56pm
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5. Why do we think this an RA block? I think the lead just has a regular block, he never points at RA. As far as block / charge goes, I had to watch the slow motion replay 3 times to see if he was legal before offense left the court, if I have to do that, then I'm okay with the either call on the court.
It appears he points to the RA as a way to suggest that is why he called the block. I do not think it was a block but that would have been the only reason to call one here. But this was the question of the person that brought this to my attention (after my game last night and recorded this on their phone.

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Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 03:06pm
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3. I have no problem with how this held ball and aftermath was officiated
Something to consider..... If you are the closest official to a scrum, do not take your eyes off of the players until everyone is up safely. Talk to the players, "Good hustle", "Easy up", so they know an official is right there as they are getting up. Do not worry about the arrow, that is what your partners are for.

Looks like Lead took his eyes off of the players just long enough for something to get started, and he would have had no idea who did what.....
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 03:27pm
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Something to consider..... If you are the closest official to a scrum, do not take your eyes off of the players until everyone is up safely. Talk to the players, "Good hustle", "Easy up", so they know an official is right there as they are getting up. Do not worry about the arrow, that is what your partners are for.

Looks like Lead took his eyes off of the players just long enough for something to get started, and he would have had no idea who did what.....
Even if he did as you suggest, at his level, he has video that will tell him all he needs to know.
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 04:11pm
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Even if he did as you suggest, at his level, he has video that will tell him all he needs to know.
Just because you have video, doesn't mean you shouldn't do things the right way. Most of us don't have every game being taped, so my comments were mainly geared in that direction....
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Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 04:24pm
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#1: can live with foul prior to upward motion

#2: upward motion had begun

#3: nothing unusual here

#4: IC on OOB for Roger

#5: I have a PC foul

#6: I would hope I would leave this play for the Center if I'm the Lead
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