NFHS questionnaire

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http://www.nfhs.org/sports-resource-...uestionnaires/

[BryanV21]

Sorry, we must have posted at the same time. Feel free to delete mine.

[UNIgiantslayers]

Wow. How many different ways could they word the free throw count/quarter thing??

[Adam]

I think we can expect movement on the rolled-waistband front.

[Rich]

As we've gone to 18-minute halves here, all of the questions on quarter-based bonus systems have come a bit late for us.

No way in hell should the game move to 20-minute halves. Personally, I don't get why we're playing 18 here instead of 16. For every game where you get 4 extra minutes of great hoops, you get 10 others that should end 4 minutes earlier.

(Personally, I'd love to go to NCAAW - 5 fouls per quarter, shoot 2. Eliminate the 1-and-1.)

Let them roll the waistband. Shorts are too long.

[BryanV21]

I found it interesting when they asked if there were many blowouts (30+ point differences). Is some type of mercy rule in the works?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I found it interesting when they asked if there were many blowouts (30+ point differences). Is some type of mercy rule in the works?

We have a 40 minute running clock with 9 minutes left in the second half (essentially a "4th quarter" if we played quarters).

Funny, we just talked about this the other night. 40 is too high a threshold, IMO. It should be 30 and it should be the entire second half. Nobody's coming back from 30 down.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Adam

I think we can expect movement on the rolled-waistband front.

It's gotten a little better this year, but it's still there.

[BryanV21]

Perhaps it's been talked about enough that it's simply accepted by now, but I can't help but feel the "they won't call it if the penalty is too harsh" thing is rubbish.

Why change a rule simply because it's not being handed out correctly or consistently? How about teaching officials to do their jobs and do what the rule book says? This reeks of the inmates running the asylum. Isn't that what points of emphasis are for?

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Originally Posted by BryanV21

Perhaps it's been talked about enough that it's simply accepted by now, but I can't help but feel the "they won't call it if the penalty is too harsh" thing is rubbish.

Why change a rule simply because it's not being handed out correctly or consistently? How about teaching officials to do their jobs and do what the rule book says? This reeks of the inmates running the asylum. Isn't that what points of emphasis are for?

Look how many times they've changed the penalry for non contact swinging elbows and leaving the court.

[crosscountry55]

I am surprised there is so much interest in tweaking uniform rules here. Haven't we learned in recent years how frustrating annual changes can be? If it's not a safety issue, just LITFA, IMHO. That said, this year was the easiest I've ever had enforcing uniform rules. Some officials in the area still seem to think the T-shirt rule is tied to the bands/tights/sleeves rule, but other than that enforcement has been easy and consistent...and coaches and players have adapted. Some teams have even gone away from accessories altogether because it's too hard and expensive for teams to all get on the same page. I think this may have been a subtly desired outcome by the committee.

In other thoughts about the survey:

1. What the heck is meant by "Would you favor, beginning with a team’s fifth foul in each quarter, shoot one-and-one; and for the seventh foul, award a bonus free throw only if the first free throw is successful?" Huh? Aren't those two things the same?

2. Why in the world would you ask, "Would you favor initiating 30-second shot clock for boys and 35-second shot clock for girls?" First of all, that's the opposite of the way it used to be in college and currently still is in CA. Second, if the NCAA has had the common sense to use the same shot clock time for both men and women, why in the world can't the NFHS? And lastly, asking the question in this form forces me to choose a yes or no answer for elements of a question that don't mesh with the underlying core question, which is, "Would you favor initiating a shot clock....period!?"

3. Why isn't there a section for free text comments at the end of the survey? I would have loved to have clarified a few things, such as:
a) I answered that I have not observed two-handed reporting in my area. That's because we have very disciplined officials here who follow the manual. I never got the chance to articulate that even though I haven't seen it doesn't mean I wouldn't LOVE to be able to use two-handed reporting. Furthermore, I didn't get the chance to describe how in the youth games in which I use two- handed reporting, no table has ever NOT been able to understand what I was doing.
b) How the real question is whether we should have a shot clock or not at all (see above).
c) Etc., etc.

Would it kill the NFHS to hire a professional program evaluator (I'm sure there's one out there somewhere who also happens to be an official) to create and administer these annual surveys? They are SO flawed....makes me cringe.

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Probably written by the same person that wrote the TC rule change.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

What does this mean? What does the second part of this change--one-and-one at 5 and one-and-one at 7?

1. Beginning with a team’s fifth foul in each quarter, shoot one-and-one; and for the seventh foul, award a bonus free throw only if the first free throw is successful.

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

1. What the heck is meant by "Would you favor, beginning with a team’s fifth foul in each quarter, shoot one-and-one; and for the seventh foul, award a bonus free throw only if the first free throw is successful?" Huh? Aren't those two things the same?

The intent of the wording is to say beginning at 5, and including 7 team fouls to shoot 1-1, and then shoot 2 shots on the 8th team foul. Agreed that there is a simpler way to word that, but that was what they meant.

[packersowner]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Wow. How many different ways could they word the free throw count/quarter thing??

My guess is they wanted to validate their question for consistency of answers. Which could mean they are more serious about making this change then others. But I might be reading into that.