The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 11:22am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
I think we can expect movement on the rolled-waistband front.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 11:46am
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
As we've gone to 18-minute halves here, all of the questions on quarter-based bonus systems have come a bit late for us.

No way in hell should the game move to 20-minute halves. Personally, I don't get why we're playing 18 here instead of 16. For every game where you get 4 extra minutes of great hoops, you get 10 others that should end 4 minutes earlier.

(Personally, I'd love to go to NCAAW - 5 fouls per quarter, shoot 2. Eliminate the 1-and-1.)

Let them roll the waistband. Shorts are too long.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 11:57am
Stubborn Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,517
I found it interesting when they asked if there were many blowouts (30+ point differences). Is some type of mercy rule in the works?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 11:59am
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanV21 View Post
I found it interesting when they asked if there were many blowouts (30+ point differences). Is some type of mercy rule in the works?
We have a 40 minute running clock with 9 minutes left in the second half (essentially a "4th quarter" if we played quarters).

Funny, we just talked about this the other night. 40 is too high a threshold, IMO. It should be 30 and it should be the entire second half. Nobody's coming back from 30 down.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 12:05pm
Stubborn Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,517
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
We have a 40 minute running clock with 9 minutes left in the second half (essentially a "4th quarter" if we played quarters).

Funny, we just talked about this the other night. 40 is too high a threshold, IMO. It should be 30 and it should be the entire second half. Nobody's coming back from 30 down.
My schedule this year was full of blowouts, so I may be biased for now, but I'd like to see some sort of mercy rule implemented. More often than not players who are on the losing end of these games "give up". In fact, I found out that one of the teams around here that are not good had 6 players quit the team before the end of the season.

Oh, and I'd like to see some sort of punishment for not complying with the fashion rules. Nothing too harsh, like an indirect T to the coach (mentioned in the questionnaire), but just something so we don't have to worry so much about it.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 12:13pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SE Ohio
Posts: 1,331
There are already penatlies for uniform infractions...
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 12:21pm
Stubborn Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,517
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB View Post
There are already penatlies for uniform infractions...
You mean the "you can't play with that on" thing? I'm referring to things like undershirt and accessory colors. Not what's listed in 3-4, which can lead to a tech on the head coach.

Last edited by BryanV21; Wed Feb 08, 2017 at 12:26pm.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 12:24pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,233
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB View Post
There are already penatlies for uniform infractions...
Penalties for Illegal Uniforms. Not for "improper accessories" (or whatever it's called)
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 12:38pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB View Post
There are already penatlies for uniform infractions...
Yeah, you add a technical foul to the mix and no one will ever enforce it.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 12:47pm
Archaic Power Monger
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
We have a 40 minute running clock with 9 minutes left in the second half (essentially a "4th quarter" if we played quarters).

Funny, we just talked about this the other night. 40 is too high a threshold, IMO. It should be 30 and it should be the entire second half. Nobody's coming back from 30 down.
We have the same and I've only seen it enacted twice this year in my games. 40 is too high.

I voted in favor of the two shot bonus with 5 fouls in a quarter and in favor of the shot clocks, which we use here. Going from no shot clock to shot clock has been a good change IMO.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
Yeah, you add a technical foul to the mix and no one will ever enforce it.
Pretty much. I hope they leave this alone. Being able to send players out or not allow them to enter is perfect.
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 02:05pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 201
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
We have a 40 minute running clock with 9 minutes left in the second half (essentially a "4th quarter" if we played quarters).

Funny, we just talked about this the other night. 40 is too high a threshold, IMO. It should be 30 and it should be the entire second half. Nobody's coming back from 30 down.
30 is too low. We've had state tournament games lately where a team down 26 in the 3rd won by 1 in regulation, and a team down 30 in the 3rd, and 26 w/6 min. to play, lose by four.

Maybe it's not 30--but it's too close to ruin those kind of finishes.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 03:02pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
30 is too low. We've had state tournament games lately where a team down 26 in the 3rd won by 1 in regulation, and a team down 30 in the 3rd, and 26 w/6 min. to play, lose by four.

Maybe it's not 30--but it's too close to ruin those kind of finishes.
If they're going to go fourth quarter only, then I think 30 is fine. At that point, probably 25 would be fine.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 03:04pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
I don't know why so many officials have a thing about coaches calling time outs. Forcing players to call timeouts during live balls would be the biggest step backwards, IMO. Some of us here actually officiated back when this was the rule.

A coach wants a timeout. You know that. Now you gotta find a player who's ALSO asking for a timeout in order to grant it. Idiotic, just idiotic....mainly because too many officials lack situational awareness.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 07:12pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
We have a 40 minute running clock with 9 minutes left in the second half (essentially a "4th quarter" if we played quarters).

Funny, we just talked about this the other night. 40 is too high a threshold, IMO. It should be 30 and it should be the entire second half. Nobody's coming back from 30 down.
Washington state has a 2nd half running clock mercy rule if the differential is 40. Running clock continues regardless of score; only spots on timeouts and free throws. Works well I think.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Wed Feb 08, 2017, 08:48pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 683
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesshank View Post
Washington state has a 2nd half running clock mercy rule if the differential is 40. Running clock continues regardless of score; only spots on timeouts and free throws. Works well I think.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
Similar in Wyoming, although we don't stop on Free Throws. If it's at the end of the 4th quarter and we have free throws, they count if they are shot in time, but otherwise when the buzzer sounds, game over.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
NFHS Basketball Questionnaire APG Basketball 55 Wed Feb 10, 2016 02:51pm
NFHS Questionnaire BillyMac Basketball 42 Mon Mar 02, 2015 02:37pm
NFHS fall sports questionnaire up.... HLin NC Football 10 Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:06pm
NFHS survey questionnaire 26 Year Gap Basketball 34 Tue Feb 21, 2012 02:38pm
2009 NFHS Football Questionnaire tjones1 Football 29 Mon Dec 28, 2009 05:50pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:30pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1