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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 01:40pm
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While I've worked at creating better rapports with coaches, I stick close by my rule of not talking to them unless it's to answer a question or if I have to (like "coach, you have one time out left"). I'm definitely not looking for reasons to speak with them.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 03:15pm
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While I've worked at creating better rapports with coaches, I stick close by my rule of not talking to them unless it's to answer a question or if I have to (like "coach, you have one time out left"). I'm definitely not looking for reasons to speak with them.

There's no need to tell them they have 1 left, either.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 03:29pm
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There's no need to tell them they have 1 left, either.
Preventative officiating. It takes a few seconds to walk over and let them know. I'd rather do that than call a technical in a tight situation late in the game. At least one that can be avoided.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 03:30pm
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Preventative officiating. It takes a few seconds to walk over and let them know. I'd rather do that than call a technical in a tight situation late in the game. At least one that can be avoided.


That's why you tell them when they have ZERO left.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 03:38pm
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That's why you tell them when they have ZERO left.
Fair enough.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 03:39pm
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Preventative officiating. It takes a few seconds to walk over and let them know. I'd rather do that than call a technical in a tight situation late in the game. At least one that can be avoided.
What are you preventing? How does telling a coach he has 1 time-out left help to prevent him from getting a T for an excessive time-out?
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 03:48pm
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What are you preventing? How does telling a coach he has 1 time-out left help to prevent him from getting a T for an excessive time-out?
Preventing him from using his final timeout when he wouldn't normally do so. We also let coaches know about being out of timeouts. It's what we're told to do. Is it for preventing something? Building a rapport? I don't know, and since it's not difficult, I don't care.

I'm surprised this is any sort of issue.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 03:56pm
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Preventing him from using his final timeout when he wouldn't normally do so. We also let coaches know about being out of timeouts. It's what we're told to do. Is it for preventing something? Building a rapport? I don't know, and since it's not difficult, I don't care.

I'm surprised this is any sort of issue.
Wow, I didn't know we should be concerned about a coach using his last time out by accident.

My mentors taught me early not to do this. Serves no purpose other than possibly passing on bad information. I will confirm with the scorekeeper(s) for my own benefit, but I leave it to the coaches to find out for themselves.

I also don't let coaches know their which players have 4 fouls.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 04:06pm
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I also don't let coaches know their which players have 4 fouls.
Okay. LOL. Are we now going to list all the things each of us don't tell coaches now?

I guess the "when in Rome" thing is not good enough for some people. Sorry.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 03:57pm
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Preventing him from using his final timeout when he wouldn't normally do so. We also let coaches know about being out of timeouts. It's what we're told to do. Is it for preventing something? Building a rapport? I don't know, and since it's not difficult, I don't care.

I'm surprised this is any sort of issue.
What if you tell him there's one left and he really doesn't have any left?
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 04:03pm
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What if you tell him there's one left and he really doesn't have any left?
Then I've done a crappy job of checking with the scorekeeper(s) to verify the number of timeouts remaining.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 04:03pm
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What if you tell him there's one left and he really doesn't have any left?
Bingo. I never tell them until they're out. It's they're job to keep track. I'm not going to be the guy who tells him he has one, then we have to call the technical foul because the scorer missed something and fixed it.

Is it a big deal? 99.9999 % of the time, no. The one time it goes wrong, though, you will have essentially caused your own heartache.
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Old Tue Feb 07, 2017, 05:53pm
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Preventative officiating. It takes a few seconds to walk over and let them know. I'd rather do that than call a technical in a tight situation late in the game. At least one that can be avoided.
College game. Table tells officials each team has two left. Officials tell teams. Team calls TO. Table now says none left (table was wrong before). Big issue. LED to big discussions on whether to give the team an additional TO (becasue they acted on what the official told them), or just now tell them they are out, or what.

The books are clear -- tell the teams when they have none left. Not before.
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The only time I "tell" a coach anything about a player is when their behavior is not up to par. It's a hint that either the coach has a chance at keeping a T off the books. Other than that I don't offer anything unless asked.
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