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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 12:14am
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I have a two on the video in the OP.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 12:34am
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I have a two on the video in the OP.
NCAA it is definitely a two. Tip is the only thing that allowed ball go in.

Now in high school we have the play cited above and also another one where a "try" from outside three line hits defense on shoulder. Ball bounces in. A try is a thrown ball. Ruling Score 2 only. The try ended is reasoning.

So, the first play cited above says thrown ball from behind 3 line, (reads like any thrown ball) touched by defense inside 3 line is 3 points. A pass from wing over the top deflected by a defender at the FT line into basket is 3?

I have reconciled those two high school case plays like NCAA ruling. If ball has absolutely 0,0, 0 chance of going in on a thrown ball, never gets above rim level without a tip, then defense tips it in..I'll count it 2.

I'm interested to hear others on those two plays nfhs. I think reading them like the AR Jeff put up earlier makes most sense...

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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 07:26am
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I have a 2 on any ruleset. IT clearly is a pass that gets deflected in.

Even if it were a shot the shot was clearly over and the ball when tipped was at least 2 feet below the rim, and if it weren't tipped would be no way near going in the basket as it is way below the actual basket. This is no different to me than a tipped rebound that goes in.
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Old Sat Feb 04, 2017, 12:30pm
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Two Or Three ???

Years ago, when the three point line was first added to the NFHS rulebook, in order for three points to be scored, there had to be a "try", not a pass, or anything else. Problems occurred where alley oop passes "accidentally" went in the basket, so the word "try" was removed from the scoring definition. I also believe (I'm a little more fuzzy on this aspect) that if the defender, from inside the three point line, tipped the ball, it was originally scored as a two point basket (thus the case play now interpreting this as a three point basket).

Keep both of these ideas in mind as we try to interpret this situation.

I think that the rule, as written, and the case play, leans toward the interpretation of this situation (nice video) as being three point basket, even if we wouldn't score the basket if the horn ending the period sounded before the ball went in the basket because it wasn't a try, nor would we call a goaltending violation, also because it wasn't a try.
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