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Team A up 87 -14. 2mins 30 left.
After a Team B time out coach says to me -"I am putting in the subs to practice the press". I respond "you,coach the Team". This league has rule you cannot press if you are ahead 40 points,the penalty is a bench technical. Also if the team down 40 points wants to end the game they can choose to do so. The subs come on set up in full court press. The ball comes in bounds by Team B. Whistle - Technical Foul team A! Coach- I told you I was going practice the press. My response - you did; but, I guess I forgot to mention I was going to enforce the rules of your league! I know it was bit of baiting by not reminding him of the league 40 point rule: but, really 87 - 14 and you are going to press! |
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Yep -- or, depending on the temperature of the game, asked coach B if he minded. Or, have B end the game and then play a 2:30 scrimmage with pressing allowed.
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2:30 left and up by an insane amount. Why extend the time left until the game ends? Ask him to talk to Coach B about it beforehand and let them decide if they want to move forward or not. This is the type of thing that the more experienced officials warn us less experienced officials about - in a game where you are not having any trouble, especially a blowout, don't do anything to piss off the coach. |
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My partner had given him a T in the first half for excessive demonstrations using violation signals and yelling out for violations. He was talked to about this and still took a T.
He yelled constantly at his players and was visibly upset when they did not execute the offence correctly. he had given the scores table trouble about team fouls not going up fast enough and was talked to about that. I have officiated for many years at high levels and now in my late sixties and do some games to have fun and stay in shape. Yes, I was wrong in, baiting him, a bit - and feel just a little bad for doing it, However, I will recover! I am not sure if the kids that play for this coach will. Having to play under his regime would be a daunting task. I know both my partner(a 22 year veteran) and I had enough of him in one game! Yes, I would give one of officials I supervise a knuckle rapping for doing this: but, I had to do it!!! |
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I'm still short of qualifying this as baiting. I'm interpreting "you, coach the team" as kind of like saying "you do you coach" and assuming he knew the rule.
Since when is it the official's responsibility to remind a coach of the rules? Seriously, what am I missing here? |
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But hey, in sports people think its OK to act like an animal.
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When the coach said that he was going to practice the press, the official definitely should have offered a simple reminder of the league mercy rule. Preventative officiating all day long.
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This is a situation where the coach should be expected to know the rule. And a coach that actually has a problem with being T'd up while leading by over 70 points has issues beyond my control. |
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We always use preventative officiating whenever possible. You were handed a scenario on a platter to use preventative officiating and you chose to take the low road simply to show the coach that you know the rule and he didn't and rub it in his face.
These "gotcha!" calls only tick people off and undermine your credibility as an official. Not the path I would have chosen, IMO. |
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None of the things you mentioned are friendly reminders. They are rules that we play by. Once 7 team fouls, we shoot bonus. Notify of no time outs remaining, that is only time we are required to say anything. First horn is a rule required notification and rules dictate how we proceed in doing that. And players standing should be one warning and a bench T the next time, not a reminder. And with all the info we have now about the coach being a jerk and already having had one T, I would have let him have his rope as well. Gotta get along before you go along. |
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