How do you adjudicate these two weird plays?

Two plays that I heard about this year, tell me what you think.

Situation 1: 2nd half, midway through 3rd quarter. Partner falls asleep, calls rebounding foul on A1 who was just on offense. Now it is B's ball in the BC going long. He reports the foul, returns to the spot. All the B players have vacated the area and run to the other end of the floor. A3 is standing at the OOB spot, so he hands her the ball and she inbounds to A4 in their frontcourt. A4 takes the pass and heads long (the wrong way), across the midcourt line (BC violation), and makes a quick pass to A5 who scores a layup. Without hesitation B1 grabs the ball after the made basket, takes it OOB under the basket and throws it to B2 who starts taking it the wrong way down the court. Only now does the crew recognize what has happened and blow the whistle to stop play.

How do you adjudicate? Can you say "cancel all the activity because a BC violation should have been called and we are going back an penalizing that violation?" Or can you not go back to that because you didn't call it at the time? Do you allow the basket scored by A against themselves, and resume with an endline throw-in for A? I know you can't go back to the original throw-in, because you can't correct that once the throw-in ends.


Situation 2: Shooting front end of 1-and-1, Lead does not notice there is no defender in the lowest marked lane space on the far side of the lane. The shooter notices his teammate is unguarded in that lane space and intentionally misses to that side. His teammate gets the rebound, and puts back the missed FT for two points. Only after the putback does the crew realize what happened and blow the whistle.

How do you adjudicate? Can you say "cancel the putback because a delayed violation should have been called first, award the substitute FT for the delayed violation and proceed normally?" Or are you required to allow the putback because you didn't recognize the call in real time and missed it?


A similar theme in the two plays: are you allowed to correct your call after the fact when you huddle with your crew, or once you miss a call do you have to eat it?

[deecee]

both situations are NOT correctable.

Depending on the level of play, and by level I mean like middle school or less, nothing is changing and we just play on from that point in time.

[bob jenkins]

1) treat it like the "players lined up the wrong way on the jump ball" -- score the basket for A, give B the ball, and get everyone pointed the right way.

2) Once the FT is over, it's too late to penalize. Count the basket for A, let B rune the end-line.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1) treat it like the "players lined up the wrong way on the jump ball" -- score the basket for A, give B the ball, and get everyone pointed the right way.

2) Once the FT is over, it's too late to penalize. Count the basket for A, let B rune the end-line.

Sounds like B had an adequate "penalty" in #2 already.