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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:06pm
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Don't play the what if game with this stuff. Two handed shove like that is flagrant in this case. Doesn't mean it always is but in this case, yes, it is
I had a 2 handed shove that I merely called intentional.

But that was in the half-court on a rebounded ball and there was little momentum involved. On a fast break, my call would've been different.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:15pm
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I've had one I called intentional. Same kid did it later that game and my partner called it flagrant. Mine could have gone either way, the second one was with more force on an even smaller player.

I'm also going to note the officials did not eject this kid from the tournament. Tournament officials must have done that, either through direct intervention or established rules.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:16pm
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We had a 2 handed shove in a game earlier this year in a BV game that I regret not being more stubborn that it should've been flagrant. It was the second time the kid had done something like that --he gave an light 2 handed shove the first time that didn't add much if anything to the kids momentum, and the second time the other kid went plowing into the bleachers behind the basket. I wanted to go flagrant, but my partners did not want to excuse a kid from a game for that. My argument was that it was the second time, and there was a real risk of injury. In fact, the kid who was pushed was out of the game the rest of the first half with rib area pain. We talked about it in the car on the way home, and they both agreed after I presented my case, but on the court I wasn't going to argue when two of the three don't want to upgrade. I tried to get video from both coaches to post here to get thoughts, but neither sent it.
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