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Originally Posted by Bob Bball (Post 998601)

Angle smangle! Who cares, The contact created by the defender was shoulder to shoulder! You can move laterally or back facing the ball handler. If you do that and contacted in the Torso of the defender it could result in a call against the offence.

When you turn and run and contact the offence you have changed direction and in doing so have not established a new legal guarding position. This a block and should not be passed on! The defender almost fouls down, the offence is re-routed momentarily by the contact.

Incorrect...the defender may be turned in any direction while moving after gaining LGP. As long as the defender is not moving towards the opponent at contact and stay in the opponents path, the direction the defender faces is irrelevant.

It is still a block, however, but not for the reasons you state. It is a block because she didn't stay in the path and that meant she needed a new LGP. It has nothing to do with the turn or the direction she was facing.

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Originally Posted by Bob Bball (Post 998601)

I have viewed this play, or very similar, hundreds of times in both Men's and Women's College basketball as an observer and supervisor of officials. Each time I see a block not called I enter INC- Incorrect no call!

The game is basketball and blocking is illegal!

You can present discussions of angle, or argue what legal lateral movement is or is not. You can not look at that play and not see defence give up LGP and never establish it again, causing a lot of contact shoulder to shoulder. A blocking foul at every level of the game.

Yes, You can choose to pass - but that is -an INC

I would expect a college observer and supervisor to know better.

She can turn(and when she does she gives up LGP)

She can then move laterally!

What she can not do is cause contact shoulder to shoulder from what is now not a LGP as she moves laterally!

Officiating 101. you will agree. We sometimes get caught up in wording when reading what other say.

It is a foul by defence!

You, obviously chose different words and phrasing to describe the some play!

But, good for you! Like most who have posted who have viewed the play it is a foul.

Describe it as you wish, it is foul!

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Originally Posted by Bob Bball (Post 998652)

She can turn(and when she does she gives up LGP)

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Officiating 101. you will agree. We sometimes get caught up in wording when reading what other say.

Again, that is incorrect...Officiating 101. This isn't a matter of words. It is just fundamentally wrong and fully inconsistent with the rules defining LGP.

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Originally Posted by kelvinsmerli (Post 998609)

Offense, Intentional.

Uhm, no.

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 998679)

Again, that is incorrect...Officiating 101. This isn't a matter of words. It is just fundamentally wrong and fully inconsistent with the rules defining LGP.

Exactly, and it will lead to incorrect calls on other plays.

Getting the right call for the wrong reasons is just getting lucky.

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 998695)

Exactly, and it will lead to incorrect calls on other plays.

Getting the right call for the wrong reasons is just getting lucky.

it's still right.