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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

It's late and I'm going to sleep but this is covered in the rules....

False multiple.

Make the best guess as to what happened first and go with that.

False multiple fits the situation with a try involved. I gave the administration above.
False multiple is also the closest rule book definition for the situation without a try for goal involved, but because one contact situation is not going to be a foul by rule (4-19-1 Note), it doesn't actually fit. We merely have a single personal foul and some incidental contact during a dead ball.

To answer BigCat's question, the NFHS rules do not permit simultaneous fouls by the same team against two or more opponents.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

False multiple fits the situation with a try involved. I gave the administration above.
False multiple is also the closest rule book definition for the situation without a try for goal involved, but because one contact situation is not going to be a foul by rule (4-19-1 Note), it doesn't actually fit. We merely have a single personal foul and some incidental contact during a dead ball.

To answer BigCat's question, the NFHS rules do not permit simultaneous fouls by the same team against two or more opponents.

I would not go so far as to say the rule do not permit simultaneous fouls just because it is undefined. IIRC, the rules didn't define simultaneous fouls as we have it today for a long time. I suspect it is more of an oversight than not being permitted.

What you suggest about the ball being dead and the other contact being incidental is true if they don't happen at the same time, but if they happen at the same time (so close no one can tell if one happened before the other), I think both can happen.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

What you suggest about the ball being dead and the other contact being incidental is true if they don't happen at the same time, but if they happen at the same time (so close no one can tell if one happened before the other), I think both can happen.

And how would you then administer such?
My position is that there are no rules providing for how to penalize such.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

And how would you then administer such?
My position is that there are no rules providing for how to penalize such.

That I don't know. They are, together, the 6th and 7th foul. So which gets the FTs? That is the big question. However, if they were truly at the same time, what rules do you have to identify which to ignore?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That I don't know. They are, together, the 6th and 7th foul. So which gets the FTs? That is the big question. However, if they were truly at the same time, what rules do you have to identify which to ignore?

Given that the administration is unknown, I'm going with the theory that you have to pick one.

A quick Rock Paper Scissors should do the trick.

Or let the R decide.

Or let the offensive coach pick.

So many options.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

Given that the administration is unknown, I'm going with the theory that you have to pick one.

A quick Rock Paper Scissors should do the trick.

Or let the R decide.

Or let the offensive coach pick.

So many options.

That is still an unknown that you're trying to resolve.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is still an unknown that you're trying to resolve.

There's no easy way out of this once-in-a-career play. But to me it's going to be easier to come up with some reason to choose one over the other than to decide who gets free throws if you call them both.