Chain Reaction Foul #2

[Freddy]

A1 is in the act of shooting.
B3 pushes B2 into A1 causing illegal contact with the shooter.
A1’s attempt is unsuccessful.

Q: Is the foul charged to B3 or B2?

[JeffM]

Originally Posted by Freddy

A1 is in the act of shooting.
B3 pushes B2 into A1 causing illegal contact with the shooter.
A1’s attempt is unsuccessful.

Q: Is the foul charged to B3 or B2?

I am calling the foul on B2 and A1 is shooting free throws if A1 is the shooter.

[kelvinsmerli]

B3 with the Push.

[kelvinsmerli]

Calling the foul on B2 is PC cuz you probably dont wish to explain yourself. See the whole play.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Freddy

A1 is in the act of shooting.
B3 pushes B2 into A1 causing illegal contact with the shooter.
A1’s attempt is unsuccessful.

Q: Is the foul charged to B3 or B2?

Originally Posted by JeffM

I am calling the foul on B2 and A1 is shooting free throws if A1 is the shooter.

Originally Posted by kelvinsmerli

Calling the foul on B2 is PC cuz you probably dont wish to explain yourself. See the whole play.

I'm good with a foul on B2 in this one. B2 did not legally contact A1. It doesn't matter that B3 gave b2 the impetus that caused the contact. There is no rule against B3 pushing B2.

[Freddy]

Is there some case play or interpretation or rule that I'm missing on this situation? I can't find anything.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by kelvinsmerli

Calling the foul on B2 is PC cuz you probably dont wish to explain yourself. See the whole play.

How can you call a foul on B3 for contacting his own player? Find rules support for that one.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kelvinsmerli

Calling the foul on B2 is PC cuz you probably dont wish to explain yourself. See the whole play.

I'll be honest, I'm really not sure what you're saying here, cuz. But you get points for trying to use a camp cliché. You don't get full points, though, because it's not really applicable to this play.

I have no problem explaining this to either coach. "the foul is on the player who actually contacted the opponent." I bet I can say that and enunciate extremely well in less than 5 seconds.

[Adam]

B2 gets the foul, he is the one who actually fouled A. He can take it up with B3 later.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Freddy

A1 is in the act of shooting.
B3 pushes B2 into A1 causing illegal contact with the shooter.
A1’s attempt is unsuccessful.

Q: Is the foul charged to B3 or B2?

Illegal contact usually isn't intentional. The fact that B3 was involved doesn't change that.

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[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Freddy

A1 is in the act of shooting.
B3 pushes B2 into A1 causing illegal contact with the shooter.
A1’s attempt is unsuccessful.

Q: Is the foul charged to B3 or B2?

I'd have to see your play. I suppose I could always call unsportsmanlike on B3. I'd have to see it. If it is simply B3 trying to get to the shooter and he shoves B2 trying to get by or something similar i agree with everyone else. Foul on B2.

I do think unsportsmanlike is an option but it would need to be bad. If a player fires a ball at an opponent we can penalize that so id assume if he fired a teammate through the air at opponent that could be unsportsmanlike….

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I'd have to see your play. I suppose I could always call unsportsmanlike on B3. I'd have to see it. If it is simply B3 trying to get to the shooter and he shoves B2 trying to get by or something similar i agree with everyone else. Foul on B2.

I do think unsportsmanlike is an option but it would need to be bad. If a player fires a ball at an opponent we can penalize that so id assume if he fired a teammate through the air at opponent that could be unsportsmanlike….

I think your really trying to stretch to get to serve T here lately.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

I think your really trying to stretch to get to serve T here lately.

Yes he has been stretching a lot of plays lately.

No way I am calling a foul on B3. B2 should complain to B3 about this one.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yes he has been stretching a lot of plays lately.

No way I am calling a foul on B3. B2 should complain to B3 about this one.

Peace

He has no rules support, either, but it's better to be "right."

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Rich

He has no rules support, either, but it's better to be "right."

Let me ask you this Rich, Suppose A1 is leaving ground on layup, in air. B3, total jerk, intentionally shoves B2, not a little push, not in any way an accident. Deliberately to take out A1. You know it and everyone in the gym knows it. B2 hits airborne A1 hard, takes his legs out etc. A1 goes to floor, hard.

What is your call? I told the OP i'd have to see it and it would have to be really bad..and gave a very extreme example as sniper pointed out, more as a joke because i doubt id ever see it. I used throwing the ball as an example because we've talked about using the ball to foul or throw it off player's face etc. Unsportsmanlike. In my play above i'm not going to let B3 off the hook. I think it is a non basketball, unsportsmanlike…flagrant etc. Will it ever happen? hopefully, not. But if a player's intent is clear, non basketball..unsportsmanlike etc., i'm going to penalize him. The fact that he uses one of his own players rather than the ball, his own body or a chair for that matter, doesn't change his intent. There is rules support to deal with B3. Generic unsportsmanlike etc but it is there.