HS shot clock

[Raymond]

I can't answer until it is confirmed who got the rebound.

[deecee]

This is not a correctable error, but it is a timing issue that can be fixed. Blue should have retained possession. If the coach realized the shot clock wasn't reset and called a TO to fix the issue, and it turned out it was correct, I would fix the issue and not charge him the TO since as a crew we messed up. He wouldn't get a TO so to speak and once the issue was resolved we would play ball or he COULD use a TO if he wanted the time with his team.

The officials should not have gone to the arrow since a team DID have possession. Unless everyone stopped playing and a kid from blue just picked up the ball going to arrow should not have been an option IMO.

The ideal thing would have been the officials realized the mistake, blow the play dead. Fix the shot clock and put the ball in play at the POI.

[Nevadaref]

CA has a document with several play rulings for its shot clock. I'll consult it for this specific timing error and get back to you.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

CA has a document with several play rulings for its shot clock. I'll consult it for this specific timing error and get back to you.

I checked the CBOA Mechanics Illustrated and I only see a case for if the operator erroneously resets the shot clock.

Can somebody answer what should happen in NCAA-M or -W in this situation? CA's shot clock rules were created to mimic NCAA shot clock rules with one exception. Barring a CA interpretation, I think we should do what is done in NCAA.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I checked the CBOA Mechanics Illustrated and I only see a case for if the operator erroneously resets the shot clock.

Can somebody answer what should happen in NCAA-M or -W in this situation? CA's shot clock rules were created to mimic NCAA shot clock rules with one exception. Barring a CA interpretation, I think we should do what is done in NCAA.

I told you what should happen in NCAA-M. The issue was a non-reset that was discovered with a team having clear possession of the ball. The only reason this gets exacerbated is because the shot clock horn went off. This doesn't change anything. The only reason you would go to the AP arrow is if the players stopped playing and there wasn't any team control when the issue was discovered. The officials have to have definite knowledge that the ball did in fact hit the rim on the first attempt otherwise its a violation.

In either case blue ball.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by deecee

I told you what should happen in NCAA-M.

Thanks.

So cal lurker, a defensive violation such as a kicked ball results in a full reset in CA. As I understand it, that's not the case in NCAA-M.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Thanks.

So cal lurker, a defensive violation such as a kicked ball results in a full reset in CA. As I understand it, that's not the case in NCAA-M.

Yep, under 15 goes to 15.

[so cal lurker]

thanks all.

Originally Posted by Welpe

CA's shot clock rules were created to mimic NCAA shot clock rules with one exception.

What is the one exception?