Coaching Staff Decorum

[packersowner]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Any fan yelling obscenities at at scholastic contest will be removed at my game no matter who they are. This is not the arena where that is even close to acceptable IMO.

I agree - I am confused why everyone is saying they would talk to their assignor. Now in this case, I realize that VrefA may have not been officiating this game. If I was the official on the court though, you can't tolerate obscenities from a fan, that has to be addressed.

[BigT]

Had a varsity official show early and saw how the Varsity coach as a fan was treating us.

He told the VHC before his varsity game he didnt appreciate how he treated us fellow offcials and he was on a short leash. I love when Vets stand up for others.

When the VHC coaches from outside the team bench area I have been told to tell the HC that his coaching staff needs to sit on the bench.

Also been told use your site admin and have them go talk to the fan and let them know if they continue to distract the crew they will be asked to leave.

Worst one was the VHC son was playing my my Soph game and his son loved to run over his lousy opponent. ON the 2nd PC call he comes down out of the top of the stands jumps the bench and points at me.

Lets just say now I would simply ask site management to remove him and play the game.

These questions about what to do with these child like behaviors while sub varsity try to work are really good stuff. Wish more sub varsity were here to get some ideas...

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by BigT

Had a varsity official show early and saw how the Varsity coach as a fan was treating us.



He told the VHC before his varsity game he didnt appreciate how he treated us fellow offcials and he was on a short leash. I love when Vets stand up for others.



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I would be more impressed if that varsity official had talked to the varsity hc while he was abusing you. That's when it really needed to be addressed.



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[refinks]

There is (or should I say was, as he resigned after last season) a varsity girls coach in my association that was.. let's just say... not a very cordial guy when it came to officials. A bit of a whiner, and a lot of technical. Got kicked out of a few games in his time at this school.

Anyways, long story short, was working a girls JV game one time. Girls JV coach for this school (who is now the varsity coach, and well deserved) and I have always gotten along great. Saw the varsity coach sitting one row behind the bench during the JV game and figured it was going to be a long game. Throughout the first half, I heard the varsity coach doing some coaching, and some minor questioning of calls (Did he really call that a foul, I think that was a travel, things like that). Calmest I'd seen him in a while.

Second half, 2 man crew. I'm trail, partner is lead. Partner calls a foul that quite honestly, wasn't a foul, but as a good partner, I back my partners all the way even when I know they've kicked a call. As soon as the call is made, before I could even get 2 steps from where I was standing, varsity coach stands up and says loud enough for me, but not my partner to hear "And that's why he's a JV official." I stopped dead in my tracks, turned right to the coach, "Whack". JV coach just dropped his head and sat down, because he, unlike his varsity coach, knew the situation.

Needless to say, the varsity coach was ticked off. Told me "you can't do that, I'm a fan this game, not a coach, you can't T me, you and your partner are pathetic, etc etc." I admit I did something that I shouldn't have, when I told the JV coach, "How would you like to coach varsity tonight?" Then pointed at the varsity coach. "Whack, get out, your night is over."

Now that was a fun report to fill out and send into my state association. Varsity officials hadn't arrived yet, but when they did, I told them about it. They all seemed to think I handled it exactly the way I should have, except I probably didn't need to ask the JV coach how he felt about coaching varsity. But... they did get a kick out of it, as this particular crew had problems with this varsity coach in the past, so they did say it was a little bit of sweet justice.

What say you guys?

[Rich]

I'm talking about during the first half -- taking care of something himself.

Sure, mentor the officials at halftime in the locker room, etc. but during the JV game the varsity officials should not be getting involved in any official capacity.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm talking about during the first half -- taking care of something himself.

Sure, mentor the officials at halftime in the locker room, etc. but during the JV game the varsity officials should not be getting involved in any official capacity.

All I am saying is that depends on the procedures of your assignor. We often are brought into the locker room by GM and that might be the time to address that issue with them. Maybe even make them aware. I am not saying confront anyone. I just think you have the option. But if that is not what you do, that is fine. Just be aware that some assignors want you to make GM aware of a lot of situations you observe before your game. Or at the very least inform the assignor of those situations.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Several years ago, during a junior varsity game, the varsity head coach was sitting on the junior varsity team bench shouting at the junior varsity officials. Eventually, one of the junior varsity officials ejected the varsity head coach, and gave an indirect technical foul to the junior varsity coach. The way things work here in Connecticut, because of the ejection, the varsity head coach couldn't coach until he sat out the next junior varsity game, so he couldn't coach his varsity team that night.

This was not a well liked coach among officials. When the situation was discussed at out next monthly meeting, the junior varsity official got a standing ovation.