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Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 02:03pm
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Intentional personal foul everytime. Maybe flagrant if malicious etc. Two shots and ball at endline NFHS.
If they are younger kids like 5th or 6th grade I will stress to the coach to teach them that this is a very dangerous play and that the shooter can be seriously hurt. Young kids don't understand this and think they are just preventing a layup.
It was a girls 4a varsity game. At least the players I recognized were 4a. Thanks for the input though, appreciate it.
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Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 03:25pm
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Just a foul.
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Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 03:41pm
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Are we talking a shove directly in the back with no attempt to make a play on the ball? If so, that's an intentional personal foul. It's straight out of the rules book.

If the defender is trying to block the shot or actually play defense and just happens to foul from behind, then a regular personal foul should be assessed.
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Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 04:07pm
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Are we talking a shove directly in the back with no attempt to make a play on the ball? If so, that's an intentional personal foul. It's straight out of the rules book.

If the defender is trying to block the shot or actually play defense and just happens to foul from behind, then a regular personal foul should be assessed.

I could not have said any better what Nevada just said.

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Old Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:44pm
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Are we talking a shove directly in the back with no attempt to make a play on the ball? If so, that's an intentional personal foul. It's straight out of the rules book.

If the defender is trying to block the shot or actually play defense and just happens to foul from behind, then a regular personal foul should be assessed.
It is, but there's still always a debate when the push didn't cause much movement or the player to miss the shot.

Well said though.
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Old Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:14pm
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It is, but there's still always a debate when the push didn't cause much movement or the player to miss the shot.

Well said though.
On an intentional foul, this isn't required.
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Old Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:48pm
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On an intentional foul, this isn't required.
I know, but there's still debate over it. I work for five assigners during the season and I know they don't all see eye to eye on this sort of play. Note, this hasn't ever changed how I call the play.

I'm just not very good at putting words together when new officials ask about this play. Even though in my head it seem relatively easy to understand.
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