Arbiter question

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Did you download a copy of your Arbiter assignment for that game when you first accepted it?

As far as the OhioHSAA and the MichiganHSAA is concerned, a copy of your Arbiter assignment is considered a valid contract. If the game has not been canceled and for whatever reason an official is removed for the game, he or she cannot be removed from the game without having his or her contract bought out.

MTD, Sr.

Seriously? And having heard the whole story this is the way you would handle this?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Seriously? And having heard the whole story this is the way you would handle this?

I know I would be expecting a check.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Rich

I know I would be expecting a check.

I disagree. If you're cut, you're cut. If the association policy is to allow the school to make this cut at any point, then that's the way it is. I'm a member of the association. It's one night. It's not a big deal.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I disagree. If you're cut, you're cut. If the association policy is to allow the school to make this cut at any point, then that's the way it is. I'm a member of the association. It's one night. It's not a big deal.

It is if you work for multiple supervisors and you close them out for that date. Your association should have policies in place as far as time limitations when someone can be arbitrarily removed from a game. If a school has you blocked, then Arbiter should be managed so that you never get an assignment involving that school.

I would be having a meeting with the executive board if I were arbitrarily removed from a game so close to game time.

[JRutledge]

This is on the assignor and he or she should have made this right.

At least in my experience, the visiting school has no say in who is on the game, even if they are in the same group. The only people that have a say are the assignor and the home school as they are the paying school for the event. And if the assignor screwed up and assigned you somewhere, he/she should be giving you another game at another site, which I have had happen many times for various reasons over the years.

Peace

[jeremy341a]

This is in Missouri.

MSHSAA Athletic By-Law 6.1.1 requires that officials shall be agreed upon by both schools at least 30 days before
each contest. The home school shall engage the officials by contract offered by the principal, superintendent, or
athletic director delegated such authority by the principal. Such contracts shall be binding upon both parties and in
any case of a broken contract, the amount of the guarantee shall be paid by the offending party to the offended
party, except when a contract is broken because of reasons beyond the control of either party or by mutual consent
of both parties. Officials assigned through an official's association shall not be permitted to officiate unless
approved by both schools in accord with this By-Law. All officials are required to have contracts for the games they
are to work.

In reality only two or so schools I've called for actually send out a contract. We use arbiter in my association.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Seriously? And having heard the whole story this is the way you would handle this?

Just Another Ref:

Evidently, you think it is okay for one of the parties to a contract to breach the contract just because it feels like it without suffering an consequences.

Like Rich said I would be expecting a check. Why? Because I signed a contract to provide that school with certain services. By signing that contract I promised said school that I would not officiate for any other school but them on that date and time. Now said school wants somebody else to officiate thereby depriving me compensation that I would have earned if I had been able to officiate else where. I can also ensure you that if you had breach the contract with said school said school would be coming after you for the breach of contract penalty.

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Just Another Ref:

Evidently, you think it is okay for one of the parties to a contract to breach the contract just because it feels like it without suffering an consequences.

Like Rich said I would be expecting a check. Why? Because I signed a contract to provide that school with certain services. By signing that contract I promised said school that I would not officiate for any other school but them on that date and time. Now said school wants somebody else to officiate thereby depriving me compensation that I would have earned if I had been able to officiate else where. I can also ensure you that if you had breach the contract with said school said school would be coming after you for the breach of contract penalty.

MTD, Sr.

You're assuming the official actually signed a contract with the school.

Here, we don't. So, there isn't a contract to be broken. There are some policies about cancellations with short notice when the official has already traveled to the game site, but aside from that, there hasn't been anything. Our state officials organization has been negotiation for a little better in that cancellations less then some number of hours before the game time would still be paid something.

If a school contacts our assignor to request that a certain official not be on their game, he's likely to not entertain the request at all unless there is a good reason. If he does, he's just going to switch the official with an official on another similar game, if there is one. No one loses anything.