Moving into vacant lane spaces

[ronny mulkey]

For the past several years (I don't know how long) my State has not permitted players to move into lane spaces left vacant by the team entitled to them. I believe that we started by being an Fed experiment and we just never went back. Because of that, I haven't really followed Rule 8-4 and any changes that might have occurred in the last 10 years or so.

My question is has there been any changes to rule 8-4 in the recent past. If so, when? For how long?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey

For the past several years (I don't know how long) my State has not permitted players to move into lane spaces left vacant by the team entitled to them. I believe that we started by being an Fed experiment and we just never went back. Because of that, I haven't really followed Rule 8-4 and any changes that might have occurred in the last 10 years or so.

My question is has there been any changes to rule 8-4 in the recent past. If so, when? For how long?

Not that I care to take DeNucci's place as Rule Historian and Archivist, here's how Rule 8-1-4 read back in the 2006-07 book and you can at least compare that to this year's book and what your state has adopted since then:

Art. 4 During a free throw when lane spaces may be occupied:
a. Marked lane spaces may be occupied by a maximum of four defensive and two offensive players.
b. The first marked lane spaces (the lane spaces adjacent to the end line) shall be occupied by opponents of the free thrower. No teammate of the free thrower shall occupy either of these marked lane spaces.
c. The second marked lane spaces on each side may be occupied by teammates of the free thrower.
d. The third marked lane spaces may be occupied by opponents of the free thrower.
e. Players shall be permitted to move along and across the lane to occupy a vacant space within the limitations listed in this rule.
f. Not more than one player may occupy any part of a marked lane space.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Not that I care to take DeNucci's place as Rule Historian and Archivist, here's how Rule 8-1-4 read back in the 2006-07 book and you can at least compare that to this year's book and what your state has adopted since then:

Art. 4 During a free throw when lane spaces may be occupied:
a. Marked lane spaces may be occupied by a maximum of four defensive and two offensive players.
b. The first marked lane spaces (the lane spaces adjacent to the end line) shall be occupied by opponents of the free thrower. No teammate of the free thrower shall occupy either of these marked lane spaces.
c. The second marked lane spaces on each side may be occupied by teammates of the free thrower.
d. The third marked lane spaces may be occupied by opponents of the free thrower.
e. Players shall be permitted to move along and across the lane to occupy a vacant space within the limitations listed in this rule.
f. Not more than one player may occupy any part of a marked lane space.

I haven't compared them but I think the only difference between this set and the current rules is the first spot, below the block, is eliminated. Need to go back further.
Need Mark to get in the attic and look. (Instead of all the excuses why he can't go up there)....

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I haven't compared them but I think the only difference between this set and the current rules is the first spot, below the block, is eliminated. Need to go back further.
Need Mark to get in the attic and look. (Instead of all the excuses why he can't go up there)....

Used to be 4 and 4 (back in the days of crowded lanes) and now it's 4 and 2. Big Cat is right in that the most recent change didn't adjust 4 and 2 but simply eliminated the first lane space.

As far as I'm aware, as long as there are at least two defenders in the lowest spaces, pretty much anything else goes as long as the totals don't exceed 4 and 2 and offensive players who want to be in the second spaces are permitted to be there.

Not sure why a state would go out of its way to alter this concept, experimentally or otherwise.


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[bob jenkins]

NCAA (at least W; I don't recall for certain about M) had a similar rule for a couple of years.

[ronny mulkey]

I have a lot of old books laying around here and I went back and found a change in 2003-2004 limiting the number from 8 to 6. And, requiring the space next to the shooter to be vacant. I am missing years 2008, 2009 and 2010. But, in 2011 I saw that a space had been eliminated closer to the end line making only 6 spots available, but I'm really not sure if that change started in 08, 09 or 10???. Is there an electronic way to access rules changes in 08, 09 or 10?


Bottom line, permitting movement to a vacant space has been in force for a long time????

Thanks for your help.

[ronny mulkey]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

NCAA (at least W; I don't recall for certain about M) had a similar rule for a couple of years.

Our state is going back to the present Fed rule. Nobody seems to know when or how this got started but I believe we participated in that experiment and liked it. I don't know why GHSA doesn't like it now? It is almost like we have just discovered that a "mistake" has been made in applying the rule the experimental way????

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey

Our state is going back to the present Fed rule. Nobody seems to know when or how this got started but I believe we participated in that experiment and liked it. I don't know why GHSA doesn't like it now? It is almost like we have just discovered that a "mistake" has been made in applying the rule the experimental way????

Must be time for a seat on the rules committee.

[ronny mulkey]

Originally Posted by Rich

Must be time for a seat on the rules committee.

I like the way that you think.......

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Not that I care to take DeNucci's place as Rule Historian and Archivist ...

In other words, the 2,000-Year-Old Man.