Block that was or wasn't

[Pantherdreams]

Lets put all nonsense about conspiracy theories and star treatment aside.

Last night at the end of the first half there was foul called on Raptors big man Biyambo trying to block Lebron.

I think the call is probably correct especially in real time, but is a great example of the inconsistency of this call in higher level basketball and what takes precendence in regards to determining incidental contact. In some cases we see officials who if the block is clean unless contact after the fact is excessive let this go, other officials who will not allow any contact regardless quality of the blocked shot because the contact is what put them in position to get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v380rlzNaCI

I have no problem with the call. Biyombo does not have legal guarding position and makes contact with the body of the offensive player. If players don't want to get called for fouls like this then they need to do a better job of showing that they got ball first and then got body, which Biyombo did not do.

[BryanV21]

Do I even have to say it?

STUPID ANNOUNCERS!

"That's a clean block."

Okay, but what about all the body-to-body contact? Was that "clean" too?

Biyambo wasn't even close to vertical, and there was more than a little body-to-body contact making this a very easy block foul call.

[Jay R]

That's one of those really tough ones. Clean up top but the defender is jumping into James.

Watching the game on the Raptors feed, the announcers have convinced themselves that the NBA is out to get the Raptors. All they talked about was how can the Raptors not shoot one free throw in the first half. Yet the Cavs shot 2 free throws in the 2nd half. No mention of that by the announcers.

Wtf. First they complain about foul disparity, and now they are using free throw disparity to claim inconsistency?? Thank god they are not tracking Total Free Throws on the scoreboard (yet).

[JRutledge]

It was not clean by any respect. There was a lot of arm contact to get the block and he was not in LGP when jumping forward to make the block. If he got the ball first and then some body contact, I would have had no issue with a no-call, but most of the contact was with body and arm first. It was a close play but the right play.

Peace

[Dad]

Originally Posted by ltllng

My problem becomes who made the foul call.
Clearly primary is lead who stands and watches.

Secondary is Trail who might have a look at it also and would have a better angle on body contact.

Which leaves the Slot (Center) going across the paint to make a questionable call.

If it is not Lebron, is the foul called?

We as officials sometimes "protect" the best players on the court instead of actually calling the rules of the game.

This is a large assumption that wasn't backed up by any facts.


1) It was a good call
2) Calling across the paint isn't a sin
3) Better players are better because they are better. Knowing how to get foul calls is one of many attributes.


Looking at plays and learning is great, but this incessant need people have to call out NBA/whatever officials is grating.

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

Lets put all nonsense about conspiracy theories and star treatment aside.

Last night at the end of the first half there was foul called on Raptors big man Biyambo trying to block Lebron.

I think the call is probably correct especially in real time, but is a great example of the inconsistency of this call in higher level basketball and what takes precendence in regards to determining incidental contact. In some cases we see officials who if the block is clean unless contact after the fact is excessive let this go, other officials who will not allow any contact regardless quality of the blocked shot because the contact is what put them in position to get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v380rlzNaCI

Inconsistency? From my perspective this was an easy call. I disagree that this was ball then body ( using something akin to the 80/20 rule).. The speed and direction of the defense along with the layup make this a foul. The one freeze frame does not do this play Justice.