Texas A+M / UNI

[packersowner]

Since the last post seemed to go off topic, I'll try to start something different here.

1. The last possession UNI had in the backcourt, where the player got trapped in the corner. Really tough play to officiate in my opinion. The C came down to help, Trail came across the court to get into position. I think there was a bump that was missed as the UNI player was going out of bounds, but wow, that was intense and hard to call anything one way or the other. Any thoughts on if this could have been handled any differently?

2. I thought this was a good example of a game that demonstrates why advancing the ball to the half court line (as with the NBA) should not be done in college. UNI was definitely constrained by being in the backcourt.

[ballgame99]

Looked like a push by B3 to me.

[Raymond]

I agree about advancing the ball, which is to the 28-foot foot line not division line. That excitement doesn't happen with that rule.

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[BigCat]

[QUOTE=packersowner;984806]Since the last post seemed to go off topic, I'll try to start something different here.

1. The last possession UNI had in the backcourt, where the player got trapped in the corner. Really tough play to officiate in my opinion. The C came down to help, Trail came across the court to get into position. I think there was a bump that was missed as the UNI player was going out of bounds, but wow, that was intense and hard to call anything one way or the other. Any thoughts on if this could have been handled any differently?

My post is below:

The player should have stood tall/strong with the ball instead of leaning away and allowing the trap to close/get tighter. He should have stepped through the trap strong. Then maybe there is firm contact and he gets a call. At the very least, throw the ball the length of the floor…..

Traps are hard for us/me because you have multiple hands/bodies to look at. There are also feet involved. I know at times I get too close trying to see the hands and lose track of the feet. I don't think the officials could have done anything different on that play. There was a slight bump but not enough to call imo. The player just didn't handle it right.

[IncorrectCall]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I agree about advancing the ball, which is to the 28-foot foot line not division line. That excitement doesn't happen with that rule.

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No, the excitement comes from last second shots to win (which happens much more often than this situation ever will).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by IncorrectCall

No, the excitement comes from last second shots to win (which happens much more often than this situation ever will).

Maybe, but there's something to be said for making them earn it (Iowa kid here who had a devastating weekend.)

[Rich]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_4eGCDF6Q

[Mr.C]

Thanks for the youtube clip of plays together. It helps me to understand why the officials at that level are so good. They call the game consistently throughout. Not bailing out the offense but allowing defenders in good positions to play defense and force offense to earn it. I am guilty of [at least I think I am] giving in to offense for a slight bump on occasion. I also like an earlier post of coaching offense to stand up straight and not even give defense more help by allowing them to close in.

[johnny d]

Should have been a foul on white 3. Using the this years new rule on an offensive cylinder, white clearly violated the UNI players cylinder and the bump that lead to the turnover, should have been a defensive foul. That being said, the UNI player could have made it a much easier play to officiate by simply stepping into the defensive player instead of continuing to lean further backwards.

[UNIgiantslayers]

I'm extremely biased, so I've withheld comment anytime someone brings this up to me, but any thoughts on the &1 called on Jesperson toward the end of regulation? Obviously any call that goes against UNI is garbage, so I'm just wondering if you guys would be right or wrong

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

I'm extremely biased, so I've withheld comment anytime someone brings this up to me, but any thoughts on the &1 called on Jesperson toward the end of regulation? Obviously any call that goes against UNI is garbage, so I'm just wondering if you guys would be right or wrong

I did not watch the entire game, only the last couple of minutes of regulation and the overtimes. I thought the contact on that play was incidental and most likely would not have had a foul. However, if similar plays were ruled fouls throughout the contest than I would find that an acceptable call.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

I'm extremely biased, so I've withheld comment anytime someone brings this up to me, but any thoughts on the &1 called on Jesperson toward the end of regulation? Obviously any call that goes against UNI is garbage, so I'm just wondering if you guys would be right or wrong

It's impossible to win a game with both hands firmly wrapped around your own throat.

[jTheUmp]

Since the other thread got deleted, and my post with it, I'll restate what I said previously.

On the blocking foul, I thought the contact was pretty minor, and could've been let go, but it did appear to cause the shooter to land awkwardly, so I can understand why it was called.

On the throw-in/trap play, regardless of potential travel, foul or no foul, what struck me was the GREAT example of the C going where he needed to go to officiate the play. A lot of officials (and I include myself in that group) wouldn't have gone that deep into the backcourt to get the look, and he ended up all the way on the backcourt end line. Will definitely have to remember that when next season comes around.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Since the other thread got deleted, and my post with it, I'll restate what I said previously.

On the blocking foul, I thought the contact was pretty minor, and could've been let go, but it did appear to cause the shooter to land awkwardly, so I can understand why it was called.

On the throw-in/trap play, regardless of potential travel, foul or no foul, what struck me was the GREAT example of the C going where he needed to go to officiate the play. A lot of officials (and I include myself in that group) wouldn't have gone that deep into the backcourt to get the look, and he ended up all the way on the backcourt end line. Will definitely have to remember that when next season comes around.

I have one supervisor who says get wherever you need to get to referee the play

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[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by Rich

It's impossible to win a game with both hands firmly wrapped around your own throat.

I'm not sure we could reach that far up our #$% to reach our throats at that point. Our heads were pretty far up there at that point.