Flagrant 1 in Utah/Fresno St.

[Nevadaref]

47-40 in the second half. Time 11:36
Obvious holding of a leg is correctly called a flagrant 1.
Would anyone pass on this due to the fastbreak occurring and easy basket that Fresno likely is going to get?
I don't believe that holding the whistle until the team scores would be proper.

[Raymond]

If it were a regular foul, maybe. Since you say it was a FF1, I call it since they get free throws and the ball.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If it were a regular foul, maybe. Since you say it was a FF1, I call it since they get free throws and the ball.

I agree and think that an official would want to get this quickly to prevent any possible escalation into an altercation.

I was just curious about the thoughts of others.

[JRutledge]

Peace

[Sharpshooternes]

Looks like a good call. Is there a situation where you would delay calling an intentional foul? I know you can delay a technical foul if the opposing team is in a scoring opportunity but....


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[JetMetFan]

Maybe - and I emphasize maybe - you could get away with it if the player who was going to take the layup had the ball when the grab took place. You might be able to argue continuous motion depending upon the timing. Since there was a pass involved before the ball got to the FSU player that was ahead of the field there really aren't any other options.

I ran into a play like this in the '14-15 season. I was T. Steal took place in front of the C. As we transition, BH/D A1 is grabbed (common foul) as she tosses a pass to A2 who has no one between her and the basket. C calls the foul. HC for Team A - I was in front of his bench as I headed to new L since it was the second half - says he understands there was contact but the call cost him two points. It actually did more than that. His team had been having all kinds of trouble against Team B's press. On the ensuing throw-in, Team A turns the ball over, gets scored on and commits a foul. After the game I asked the C whether he might have been able to wait to see how things developed on the play and he said it needed to be called so I left it alone. My feeling? I thought he could have held his whistle and seen if the pass made it to A2. If it didn't or if it looked like it wouldn't, call the foul.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Maybe - and I emphasize maybe - you could get away with it if the player who was going to take the layup had the ball when the grab took place. You might be able to argue continuous motion depending upon the timing. Since there was a pass involved before the ball got to the FSU player that was ahead of the field there really aren't any other options.

I ran into a play like this in the '14-15 season. I was T. Steal took place in front of the C. As we transition, BH/D A1 is grabbed (common foul) as she tosses a pass to A2 who has no one between her and the basket. C calls the foul. HC for Team A - I was in front of his bench as I headed to new L since it was the second half - says he understands there was contact but the call cost him two points. It actually did more than that. His team had been having all kinds of trouble against Team B's press. On the ensuing throw-in, Team A turns the ball over, gets scored on and commits a foul. After the game I asked the C whether he might have been able to wait to see how things developed on the play and he said it needed to be called so I left it alone. My feeling? I thought he could have held his whistle and seen if the pass made it to A2. If it didn't or if it looked like it wouldn't, call the foul.

One handed grab, I assume? Cause if it was with 2 hands, I'm calling it every time. They want automatics, they get automatics....

[rockyroad]

This is not like the delayed call on a T situation. This play could have easily led to retaliation/escalation if we don't have a whistle on it right away. The player being grabbed is very likely to kick at the defender or something else - we stop that by calling that FF1 immediately. I really don't see the connection between withholding a whistle on a coach or player yelling at us and this type of play. Two very, very different situations.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Rich

One handed grab, I assume? Cause if it was with 2 hands, I'm calling it every time. They want automatics, they get automatics....

If I remember correctly it was. The player who lost the ball reached out and swiped at the kid who took it and got her arm.