Two Block Charge Calls (Videos)

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well that is not how it is taught (at least here). We like to give the C the shot at this play as it come totally from their area. I have no issues with who called it either way and that is likely why the L laid off the signal.

Peace

Unfortunately what Rut said is true. This is how HS officials are taught to handle this player in our area. The few times a year I work HS games, we pregame that L is taking these plays when they involve secondary defenders. Often, at least one member of the crew isn't familiar with the concept of secondary defenders, so we end up just going with L gets first crack on all these plays and as T or C it is ok to have a whistle, but you need to hold your preliminary signal.

[Raymond]

Look like 2 good calls to me. 2nd crash was outside the paint on the C's side, so I have no problem with him taking that call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Unfortunately what Rut said is true. This is how HS officials are taught to handle this player in our area. The few times a year I work HS games, we pregame that L is taking these plays when they involve secondary defenders. Often, at least one member of the crew isn't familiar with the concept of secondary defenders, so we end up just going with L gets first crack on all these plays and as T or C it is ok to have a whistle, but you need to hold your preliminary signal.

I have done it this way for as long as I can remember. I do not like the idea of a Lead calling across the lane. If they have something to call, get the heck over there. Secondary defenders are not difficult for a C in this case as they are seeing where the ball handler is going. Now if the contact is totally in the lane the play came down the middle of the lane, I would agree. But to me the Center say the entire thing. The Lead should know this and at least be slower.

I think that is more of a college concept and was started because the Lead officials acted like they did not know how to have a double whistle.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have done it this way for as long as I can remember. I do not like the idea of a Lead calling across the lane. If they have something to call, get the heck over there.

There is nothing magical about a stripe painted on the floor. That defender came from the middle of the paint and got maybe a few inches across the lane line. It isn't like the L is calling something 30 feet away. The L had no reason, before the contact, to even be over there. The L was tracking that defender from the middle of the paint to the point of contact. Only the L saw the whole play. At best, the C picked up the defender at the last moment.

Both charges. No problem with C taking the 2nd one, but he needs to be lower and closer to FTLE. Getting in the right position lends more credibility to his call.

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have done it this way for as long as I can remember. I do not like the idea of a Lead calling across the lane. If they have something to call, get the heck over there. Secondary defenders are not difficult for a C in this case as they are seeing where the ball handler is going. Now if the contact is totally in the lane the play came down the middle of the lane, I would agree. But to me the Center say the entire thing. The Lead should know this and at least be slower.

This is the way I learned it as well. C takes it all the way to the basket, L has a patient whistle and gets it if he needs to get it. 2 charges by the way.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Maineac

This is the way I learned it as well. C takes it all the way to the basket, L has a patient whistle and gets it if he needs to get it. 2 charges by the way.

We teach that the C takes it all the way to the basket regarding primary defenders and the L takes anything involving secondary defenders.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

We teach that the C takes it all the way to the basket regarding primary defenders and the L takes anything involving secondary defenders.

Which is what we do, as well, as long as the secondary defender started in the L's primary.

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

We teach that the C takes it all the way to the basket regarding primary defenders and the L takes anything involving secondary defenders.

Understood, I didn't mean to imply anyone else's way was incorrect. I was just agreeing with JRut's take on this play.

[Nevadaref]

These mechanics are always evolving. What has been described as the current Indiana HS mechanic seems to be behind the curve when one considers what is being taught at the college and NBA levels.

[reffish]

My opinion, albeit minor, believes that the Lead watched the play start and develop and did not see the finish, specifically, the secondary defender slide over and take the charge. Because of that, the Lead does not have the best opinion on this play. Also, after the shot, it appears the Lead follows the ball to the rim and then has a whistle. If I am wrong, and the Lead is officiating white 25, then the Lead has the best look on the play and best opinion.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

These mechanics are always evolving. What has been described as the current Indiana HS mechanic seems to be behind the curve when one considers what is being taught at the college and NBA levels.

Keep in mind I am not saying that we only want the C to call this play. In a perfect world we might not ever have a double whistle if both could get into the their partner's head. I am just saying that the C has the perfect right to make this call, but this has to be pre-gamed first as well. This play is usually a pre-game item every single game I work because I want to be in agreement as to how we call this. I have done it different ways and usually there are only one or two plays that even come close to this situation anyway. Bottom line, always talk about this so you know what should be done, but we teach some basic guidelines.

Peace