The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 01, 2016, 04:06pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 270
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
I think putting 1.0 seconds on the clock was a bit generous.
From what I can see on the clock in the background I tend to agree. However, isn't a timeout technically granted when acknowledged by the official and not when he hits the whistle? That may be why the put a full second back on the clock.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 01, 2016, 04:07pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,793
Quote:
Originally Posted by BatteryPowered View Post
From what I can see on the clock in the background I tend to agree. However, isn't a timeout technically granted when acknowledged by the official and not when he hits the whistle? That may be why the put a full second back on the clock.
He didn't even catch the ball until there's 0.7 seconds left. The coach does immediately call time -- on first watching I had 0.5 seconds as an estimate and I'm happy with that -- still enough time for the winning play. But 1 second was too much.

They should use a monitor in that situation everywhere if it's available.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 01, 2016, 04:10pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 270
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
He didn't even catch the ball until there's 0.7 seconds left. The coach does immediately call time -- on first watching I had 0.5 seconds as an estimate and I'm happy with that -- still enough time for the winning play. But 1 second was too much.

They should use a monitor in that situation everywhere if it's available.
Well, since the release at the end was at 0.7 (meaning 0.3 ran off) then it is a moot point
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 01, 2016, 04:37pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: In the offseason.
Posts: 12,263
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich View Post
He didn't even catch the ball until there's 0.7 seconds left. The coach does immediately call time -- on first watching I had 0.5 seconds as an estimate and I'm happy with that -- still enough time for the winning play. But 1 second was too much.

They should use a monitor in that situation everywhere if it's available.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BatteryPowered View Post
Well, since the release at the end was at 0.7 (meaning 0.3 ran off) then it is a moot point
Agree.

The player first made contact with the ball at 1.0. Control, for all practical purposes, doesn't begin until some point after that. The coach signaled timeout at 0.6. The player turned towards an official at that same time....presumably saying timeout while doing so. At most, I've got 0.6 on the clock given that it takes some amount of time to control the ball before a timeout can be granted.

But, we have video to review it, they didn't. Still, I don't think I could have come up with 1.0 if I were there.

But, as also noted, 0.6 would have still been enough for that shot to have counted.
__________________
Owner/Developer of RefTown.com
Commissioner, Portland Basketball Officials Association

Last edited by Camron Rust; Wed Mar 02, 2016 at 05:17am.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 01, 2016, 04:58pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 561
Send a message via AIM to BoomerSooner
My first thought was that that earliest the timeout could have come was with 0.5 to 0.6 seconds remaining. After reading Rich's comment, I could possibly agree to 0.7 seconds, but timing the request and granting of the timeout to precisely coincide with calling at the exact moment the player gains possession is unlikely at best. That said, the ball was easily off of the shooter's hand in 0.3 to 0.2 seconds (I think the clock may have started a little slow), so the basket would have been good either way.

I am curious if anyone else noticed that the LED lights on the backboard appear to light up with 0.1 second remaining during the portion of the video where the timeout is called and the clock continues. It was a little blurry, but while trying to pause the video frame-by-frame to see how much time should have been put on the clock, I thought I saw 0.1 on the clock with the light on. Usually it seems like you'll get 0.0 without the light or horn, but never time left with a horn/light.
__________________
My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 01, 2016, 05:02pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 561
Send a message via AIM to BoomerSooner
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomerSooner View Post
I am curious if anyone else noticed that the LED lights on the backboard appear to light up with 0.1 second remaining during the portion of the video where the timeout is called and the clock continues. It was a little blurry, but while trying to pause the video frame-by-frame to see how much time should have been put on the clock, I thought I saw 0.1 on the clock with the light on. Usually it seems like you'll get 0.0 without the light or horn, but never time left with a horn/light.
Ignore this...I went back and looked at it 3 more times and realized that it was 0.0 on the clock.
__________________
My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rhode Island/ GA Tech Video Steal and Dunk (Video) Bp73 Basketball 7 Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:49pm
Rhode Island Assignor BballJones Basketball 3 Wed Dec 29, 2010 09:21pm
UMass-Rhode Island Screen No-Call keyzersoze Basketball 2 Sun Mar 08, 2009 01:18pm
State Final Assignment tjones1 Football 20 Mon Dec 01, 2008 04:16pm
Rhode Island v Iowa: Little League Carl Childress Baseball 16 Mon Aug 23, 2004 02:21pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:20am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1