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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:15pm
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Great no-call on the screen. It was legally set and did what it was designed to do. The screened player doesn't have to avoid contact on a blind screen like that.

And on the final shot...he may have touched the hair, but that was a great blocked shot. No call from me on that.
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Old Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:21pm
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I thought it should have been an F1 upgrade.

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Old Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:52pm
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How about the 3-point shot that was changed to a 2-pointer in the closing minutes. Having been at the game, they did not show any replays on the Jumbotron.

Why was the delay so lengthy and then why did the officials get back together after OSU's coaching staff questioned the reversal?
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Old Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:02pm
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How about the 3-point shot that was changed to a 2-pointer in the closing minutes. Having been at the game, they did not show any replays on the Jumbotron.

Why was the delay so lengthy and then why did the officials get back together after OSU's coaching staff questioned the reversal?
Do you remember the time in the game when that happened? I saw that and I thought they missed it, but then again I am not sure they saw everything the TV people saw in the way they blew up the screen.

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Great no-call on the screen. It was legally set and did what it was designed to do. The screened player doesn't have to avoid contact on a blind screen like that.
Where do you get that from?

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Rut how about the double foul at about 1 minute left in the second half during a dead ball that they didn't call double T's?
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Where do you get that from?

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Rut how about the double foul at about 1 minute left in the second half during a dead ball that they didn't call double T's?
The only foul would be on the Ohio player. I have no foul on a player that set the screen as he was there and gave time and distance IMO.

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The only foul would be on the Ohio player. I have no foul on a player that set the screen as he was there and gave time and distance IMO.

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Yes I agree. I was asking Camron where he got his ruling from.

What I'm asking you is that at about 1 minute remaining in the second half there was a made basket and a tustle after the fact that was called a double foul versus double T's.

That's the video I was asking for.
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Old Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:14am
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Here is the play....(Video)

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What I'm asking you is that at about 1 minute remaining in the second half there was a made basket and a tustle after the fact that was called a double foul versus double T's.

That's the video I was asking for.


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Old Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:59am
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For the double foul, the contact starts before the ball enters the basket. The fling by the Iowa player comes after.
If a double foul is called (as it was in the game), it should be personal. Otherwise, a case can be made for a single DBCTF against Iowa.
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Where do you get that from?
Rule 4-40-7.
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A player who is screened within his/her visual field is expected to avoid contact by going around the screener. In cases of screens outside the visual field, the opponent may make inadvertent contact with the screener and if the opponent is running rapidly, the contact may be severe. Such a case is to be ruled as incidental contact provided the opponent stops or attempts to stop on contact and moves around the screen, and provided the screener is not displaced if he/she has the ball.
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Rule 4-40-7.
Camron this doesn't exist in the ncaam rulebook and I can't find anything similar.

But it's good to know for HS, thanks.
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Old Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:54am
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Camron this doesn't exist in the ncaam rulebook and I can't find anything similar.

But it's good to know for HS, thanks.
It is in the NCAA-M book as well, you need to look harder. Also, this has been covered in one of Adam's videos. Look through the archive, you will find the play. Camron has it exactly right.
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Old Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:29pm
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Camron this doesn't exist in the ncaam rulebook and I can't find anything similar.

But it's good to know for HS, thanks.
It's in the incidental contact definition. player screened outside visual field may make inadvertent contact with the screener. Contact "shall" be incidental unless screener has the ball and is displaced.

I also believe they got both calls right.
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It's in the incidental contact definition. player screened outside visual field may make inadvertent contact with the screener. Contact "shall" be incidental unless screener has the ball and is displaced.

I also believe they got both calls right.
4-21 Art. 5. A player who is screened outside his visual field may make inadvertent
contact with the screener. Such contact shall be incidental, provided that the
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