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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:01pm
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Perfectly said!!!!!!!!!
My kids know better than to address an adult by their first name, unless they put Mr. or Miss in front of it. My 41 year-old wife addresses elders in the same manner.

It just the way some people were raised, and continue to be raised. There is nothing wrong with it. I have never heard a HS or college player address their coach by first name, it always "Coach", or "Coach So-n-so".

And it is definitely not acceptable around here for students to address teachers by their first names. A young man who graduated with my older son is now a substitute teacher at my younger son's school. My son wanted to show off one day when I was there and said "Hey FirstName" when the man happened to walk into the office. I made it perfectly clear that when they are on school grounds he will be addressed as "Mr. Evans".
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:06pm
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My kids know better than to address an adult by their first name, unless they put Mr. or Miss in front of it. My 41 year-old wife addresses elders in the same manner.

It just the way some people were raised, and continue to be raised. There is nothing wrong with it.
Did I miss a post where someone said there was something wrong with calling people Mr. or Mrs. or Miss???

It is admirable that you raised your kids that way. For the record, I did, too. But that has diddly squat to do with the original post in this thread.

Simple Question: If/when a player addresses you as "Hey, Bad" (since I have no idea what your first name is), how do/will you respond?
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:29pm
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Did I miss a post where someone said there was something wrong with calling people Mr. or Mrs. or Miss???

It is admirable that you raised your kids that way. For the record, I did, too. But that has diddly squat to do with the original post in this thread.

Simple Question: If/when a player addresses you as "Hey, Bad" (since I have no idea what your first name is), how do/will you respond?
I saw the posts where people who introduce themselves as Mr. or Miss are considered to be A-holes and narcissistic, so my response is in that context.

When I say no player knows my first name, I'm dead serious. I am not part of any of the local sports circles, my only connection is that I officiate basketball. I don't have any close friends who have kids who play in my leagues. I'm a military brat and spent 22 years in the military myself. It is very easy to for me to be disconnected.

If a player addressed me by first name I probably would not even realize he was speaking to me, I would just assume he was calling out to a teammate. But it has never happened, and the Asperger's in me doesn't allow me to worry about hypotheticals.

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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:30pm
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:20pm
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My kids know better than to address an adult by their first name, unless they put Mr. or Miss in front of it. My 41 year-old wife addresses elders in the same manner.

It just the way some people were raised, and continue to be raised. There is nothing wrong with it.
Petty. True respect isn't in a name.

Go to a school these days, many of the teachers now having kids calling them by their first name. Guess which teachers have obviously more respect from their classroom?

While once upon a time, it was a social thing to address people by their last names. Heck, friends did it to each other all the time. It's been antiquated. Now, often, older people are just pegged as being on a power trip. It has very little with people showing others' respect, nowadays.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:35pm
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Petty. True respect isn't in a name.

Go to a school these days, many of the teachers now having kids calling them by their first name. Guess which teachers have obviously more respect from their classroom?

While once upon a time, it was a social thing to address people by their last names. Heck, friends did it to each other all the time. It's been antiquated. Now, often, older people are just pegged as being on a power trip. It has very little with people showing others' respect, nowadays.
Are you trying to tell me what's going on in the schools that I'm inside of every year? Are you that arrogant to tell me what's going on where I live?

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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:53pm
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Are you trying to tell me what's going on in the schools that I'm inside of every year? Are you that arrogant to tell me what's going on where I live?

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I think it varies depending on where you live. I doubt anybody has any doubt as to what you are seeing on a day to day basis.

I know where I live it's different.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:51pm
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Petty. True respect isn't in a name.

Go to a school these days, many of the teachers now having kids calling them by their first name. Guess which teachers have obviously more respect from their classroom?

While once upon a time, it was a social thing to address people by their last names. Heck, friends did it to each other all the time. It's been antiquated. Now, often, older people are just pegged as being on a power trip. It has very little with people showing others' respect, nowadays.
I have to agree, but to each his own.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:09pm
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Petty. True respect isn't in a name.

Go to a school these days, many of the teachers now having kids calling them by their first name. Guess which teachers have obviously more respect from their classroom?

While once upon a time, it was a social thing to address people by their last names. Heck, friends did it to each other all the time. It's been antiquated. Now, often, older people are just pegged as being on a power trip. It has very little with people showing others' respect, nowadays.
I would not...in a million, billion years (EVER) call someone petty who tried to teach their kids respect/discipline. Take a trip to your local courthouse. Excessive respect/discipline is not the problem.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:50pm
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My kids know better than to address an adult by their first name, unless they put Mr. or Miss in front of it. My 41 year-old wife addresses elders in the same manner.

It just the way some people were raised, and continue to be raised. There is nothing wrong with it. I have never heard a HS or college player address their coach by first name, it always "Coach", or "Coach So-n-so".

And it is definitely not acceptable around here for students to address teachers by their first names. A young man who graduated with my older son is now a substitute teacher at my younger son's school. My son wanted to show off one day when I was there and said "Hey FirstName" when the man happened to walk into the office. I made it perfectly clear that when they are on school grounds he will be addressed as "Mr. Evans".
I guess what is acceptable varies in different parts of the country and varies among families. To each his own.

I don't take myself that seriously to where I need to be addressed as Mr. I do agree that teachers and coaches should be referred to as Mr. or Coach. As a referee I don't care. I also don't care in every day life if I am addressed as Mr.
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