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Old Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:49pm
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Anyone notice Sirmons run across the court to Cal before he gave the T? I can't imagine that is a good way to de-escalate things.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 12:17am
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Anyone notice Sirmons run across the court to Cal before he gave the T? I can't imagine that is a good way to de-escalate things.
Sirmons has worked three Final Fours. I think he knows what he's doing.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:30am
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Sirmons has worked three Final Fours. I think he knows what he's doing.
Which obviously means he is above reproach and never makes a mistake.

It's funny considering Sirmons told me this summer that he got reprimanded for going in the UNI's huddle when he had that 3 points/backcourt violation play. I imagine his supervisor probably didn't like him running over to Cal and then whacking him in this game either.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:19pm
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Which obviously means he is above reproach and never makes a mistake.

It's funny considering Sirmons told me this summer that he got reprimanded for going in the UNI's huddle when he had that 3 points/backcourt violation play. I imagine his supervisor probably didn't like him running over to Cal and then whacking him in this game either.
You do realize that his supervisor for SEC games isn't the same as the one for the NCAA Tournament, right? What makes you so sure that his supervisor isn't going to like what he did here? He had to go over there to switch anyway because the tableside official called the foul.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:23pm
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You do realize that his supervisor for SEC games isn't the same as the one for the NCAA Tournament, right?
Yes I am aware John Adams and Jake Bell are two different people.

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What makes you so sure that his supervisor isn't going to like what he did here?
Perhaps cuz it looks like Sirmons baited him?

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He had to go over there to switch anyway because the tableside official called the foul.
Yeah but how many officials sprint across the floor to their new position??
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:32pm
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Yeah but how many officials sprint across the floor to their new position??
On most of my switches I am hustling to my position. In some cases it may be a sprint depending on how far I have to go. The more you hustle to your position, the better you look, and the happier it makes your assignor.

So you can mark me as one under that column.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:34pm
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On most of my switches I am hustling to my position. In some cases it may be a sprint depending on how far I have to go. The more you hustle to your position, the better you look, and the happier it makes your assignor.

So you can mark me as one under that column.
Sprinting to your new position would make you look like a fool. You have a responsibility to watch the other players while your partner is reporting the foul. Move with a purpose, but if you are wildly sprinting across the floor, you can't manage the 10 players on the floor adequately.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:32pm
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Yes I am aware John Adams and Jake Bell are two different people.



Perhaps cuz it looks like Sirmons baited him?



Yeah but how many officials sprint across the floor to their new position??
Without knowing exactly what Cal said to precipitate it, I'm going to defer to the official who's been to multiple Final Fours and assume he didn't bait the coach rather than a coach for whom this may be excessive but not completely out of character.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:36pm
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Without knowing exactly what Cal said to precipitate it, I'm going to defer to the official who's been to multiple Final Fours and assume he didn't bait the coach rather than a coach for whom this may be excessive but not completely out of character.
Agree. He could have been sprinting over to try to keep the coach calm. If the coach is running out and making a scene, I would be fine with the official hustling over to try to calm things down. If the official gets over there and the coach says "F you," there's not much that can be done at that point ...

I don't see anything to put blame on the official from watching the film.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:53pm
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Yes I am aware John Adams and Jake Bell are two different people.



Perhaps cuz it looks like Sirmons baited him?



Yeah but how many officials sprint across the floor to their new position??

I would love to know how you bait a coach while switching to your new position on a foul you did not call? I am sure you know more about this than I do. After all he was more than 10 feet from Cal when the second T was issued.

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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:36pm
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On most of my switches I am hustling to my position. In some cases it may be a sprint depending on how far I have to go. The more you hustle to your position, the better you look, and the happier it makes your assignor.

So you can mark me as one under that column.
You really sprint across the floor when switching during a dead ball? Did you see how fast Sirmons was running in the video?? Do you know what the word "sprint" means?

I'm going to need to see some video from your games, can you provide video of you sprinting during switches please?

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I would love to know how you bait a coach while switching to your new position on a foul you did not call?
I never said Sirmons baited him, but the perception looks like he did.

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I am sure you know more about this than I do.
Your sarcasm won't work on me buddy.

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After all he was more than 10 feet from Cal when the second T was issued.
Irrelevant. I'm not talking about the 2nd T, I'm talking about the first one.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:31pm
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Which obviously means he is above reproach and never makes a mistake. .
No it means he is accomplished and I doubt they totally disagree with his basic judgment. That is what happens when you are and accomplished official or coach. And unlike a coach we are picked to work games by someone in a higher position. Do not think that there are his bosses that have seen him in big time situations and judged he knows what he is doing.

And honestly we have no idea what Coach Cal said. Cal could have never came to the table at all. Shame on him if he gets a T. Stay your behind at the bench if you want to stay in the game.

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And honestly we have no idea what Coach California said. Call could have never came to the table at all. Shame on him if he gets a T. Stay your behind at the bench if you want to stay in the game.

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He did. We're talking about the first T. He was right at his chair at the time of the first one.

The 2nd T, sure, he deserved that one 100%, no question.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:03pm
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He did. We're talking about the first T. He was right at his chair at the time of the first one.

The 2nd T, sure, he deserved that one 100%, no question.
OK not sure where he is sitting has anything to do with my pov. He said something than did not let it go.

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