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JRutledge Mon Feb 15, 2016 02:03pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 981015)
He did. We're talking about the first T. He was right at his chair at the time of the first one.

The 2nd T, sure, he deserved that one 100%, no question.

OK not sure where he is sitting has anything to do with my pov. He said something than did not let it go.

Peace

Rich Mon Feb 15, 2016 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 981014)
That says all I need to know.

It's true. Ryan had a much more accomplished career.

My friends would laugh at this, cause I'm one of the few here who never really idolized Ryan. I thought he mailed it in at the beginning of this season and Gard's success since taking over bears that out.

Camron Rust Mon Feb 15, 2016 02:35pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 981022)
It's true. Ryan had a much more accomplished career.

Not really....according those who are put people in the HoF.

Adam Mon Feb 15, 2016 02:57pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 981029)
Not really....according those who are put people in the HoF.

Well that's kind of circular.

AremRed Mon Feb 15, 2016 03:23pm

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Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 981004)
You do realize that his supervisor for SEC games isn't the same as the one for the NCAA Tournament, right?

Yes I am aware John Adams and Jake Bell are two different people.

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Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 981004)
What makes you so sure that his supervisor isn't going to like what he did here?

Perhaps cuz it looks like Sirmons baited him?

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Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 981004)
He had to go over there to switch anyway because the tableside official called the foul.

Yeah but how many officials sprint across the floor to their new position??

deecee Mon Feb 15, 2016 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 981042)
Yeah but how many officials sprint across the floor to their new position??

On most of my switches I am hustling to my position. In some cases it may be a sprint depending on how far I have to go. The more you hustle to your position, the better you look, and the happier it makes your assignor.

So you can mark me as one under that column.

Adam Mon Feb 15, 2016 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 981042)
Yes I am aware John Adams and Jake Bell are two different people.



Perhaps cuz it looks like Sirmons baited him?



Yeah but how many officials sprint across the floor to their new position??

Without knowing exactly what Cal said to precipitate it, I'm going to defer to the official who's been to multiple Final Fours and assume he didn't bait the coach rather than a coach for whom this may be excessive but not completely out of character.

jpgc99 Mon Feb 15, 2016 03:34pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 981043)
On most of my switches I am hustling to my position. In some cases it may be a sprint depending on how far I have to go. The more you hustle to your position, the better you look, and the happier it makes your assignor.

So you can mark me as one under that column.

Sprinting to your new position would make you look like a fool. You have a responsibility to watch the other players while your partner is reporting the foul. Move with a purpose, but if you are wildly sprinting across the floor, you can't manage the 10 players on the floor adequately.

jpgc99 Mon Feb 15, 2016 03:36pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 981044)
Without knowing exactly what Cal said to precipitate it, I'm going to defer to the official who's been to multiple Final Fours and assume he didn't bait the coach rather than a coach for whom this may be excessive but not completely out of character.

Agree. He could have been sprinting over to try to keep the coach calm. If the coach is running out and making a scene, I would be fine with the official hustling over to try to calm things down. If the official gets over there and the coach says "F you," there's not much that can be done at that point ...

I don't see anything to put blame on the official from watching the film.

deecee Mon Feb 15, 2016 03:46pm

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Originally Posted by jpgc99 (Post 981045)
Sprinting to your new position would make you look like a fool. You have a responsibility to watch the other players while your partner is reporting the foul. Move with a purpose, but if you are wildly sprinting across the floor, you can't manage the 10 players on the floor adequately.

In 3 man you don't all need to be eyeballing the players during dead balls. Secondly if you can't sprint to your spot and observe the players in front of you then you have other issues. Plus this is what has gotten me to the NCAAM rank and it's what is expected by my assignor. Dead ball officiating is not rocket science, it's having game/situational awareness.

Always hustle (period). I will say that I don't hustle enough when reporting a foul, but that's something easily remedied. It's a pet peeve of mine when I see officials just half ass their rotations and switches. You know where you have to go, get there.

JRutledge Mon Feb 15, 2016 03:53pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 981042)
Yes I am aware John Adams and Jake Bell are two different people.



Perhaps cuz it looks like Sirmons baited him?



Yeah but how many officials sprint across the floor to their new position??


I would love to know how you bait a coach while switching to your new position on a foul you did not call? I am sure you know more about this than I do. After all he was more than 10 feet from Cal when the second T was issued.

Peace

AremRed Mon Feb 15, 2016 04:36pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 981043)
On most of my switches I am hustling to my position. In some cases it may be a sprint depending on how far I have to go. The more you hustle to your position, the better you look, and the happier it makes your assignor.

So you can mark me as one under that column.

You really sprint across the floor when switching during a dead ball? Did you see how fast Sirmons was running in the video?? Do you know what the word "sprint" means?

I'm going to need to see some video from your games, can you provide video of you sprinting during switches please?

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 981054)
I would love to know how you bait a coach while switching to your new position on a foul you did not call?

I never said Sirmons baited him, but the perception looks like he did.

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 981054)
I am sure you know more about this than I do.

Your sarcasm won't work on me buddy. :D

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 981054)
After all he was more than 10 feet from Cal when the second T was issued.

Irrelevant. I'm not talking about the 2nd T, I'm talking about the first one.

deecee Mon Feb 15, 2016 04:59pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 981065)
You really sprint across the floor when switching during a dead ball? Did you see how fast Sirmons was running in the video?? Do you know what the word "sprint" means?

I'm going to need to see some video from your games, can you provide video of you sprinting during switches please?

I just rewatched the video. That wasn't a sprint. But maybe sprint is a bit overstated. But The speed he was moving at is what I try and maintain when I have to get somewhere. I will sprint if I HAVE to get to a spot because it looks like something may be going down.

I also sprint when going from T-->L and C-->C in most cases. Then again me sprinting may be a jog for most others :(.

JRutledge Mon Feb 15, 2016 05:21pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 981065)

I never said Sirmons baited him, but the perception looks like he did.

Whose perception are we talking about? I do not assume that baiting has much to do with sprinting to a new position. Obviously the situation resulted in a T by what was said. Now if we have audio of what was said, then OK, but we do not have audio of what was said and I am sure that report was sent to the powers that be. And if a coach does not want to get a T, they can just shut up, but they have to say something.


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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 981065)
Your sarcasm won't work on me buddy. :D

I am sarcastic, not going to change or nor am I worried about what works on you. Just find it odd what you stated.


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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 981065)
Irrelevant. I'm not talking about the 2nd T, I'm talking about the first one.

It is irreverent to get baited when you have been given the first T. I do not subscribe to the "He got baited" when the attitude is I can say whatever the hell I want to say to you, but don't you say anything to me. Sorry, that is lame.

Peace

Camron Rust Mon Feb 15, 2016 05:40pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 981075)
It is irreverent to get baited when you have been given the first T.

Peace

He didn't have a T yet at the time. The first T can out of the blue and appears questionable to some by what can be seen on any video that has been shown. Calapari, while not happy with something, wasn't out of control until after the first T. Something happened there that really set him off.

The 2nd T was obvious, but may not have ever happened in absence of the 1st T.


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