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JRutledge Sat Feb 13, 2016 02:34pm

I will have to go back and look, but I believe they gave the ball back to South Carolina based on the video. I will look again as there was some confusion by the commentators.

Peace

SNIPERBBB Sat Feb 13, 2016 02:56pm

To me it looks more like the SC guy fouled his own teammate

JRutledge Sat Feb 13, 2016 03:01pm

I went back and looked at the video and it appears they gave the ball to Kentucky after the 4 FTs. It was not clear as they did not show the throw-in and not sure where they gave the ball to them at based on the broadcast. ESPN was busy showing continuous replays of Coach Cal getting ejected. But it looks like #13 on Kentucky fouled the SC player and pin balled him into another Kentucky player.

That even shows more silliness by Coach Cal because he got the foul and the play I showed that the Play-by-Play guy claimed was a foul before, he had nothing to complain about.

Peace

SC Official Sat Feb 13, 2016 03:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 980744)
Kentucky was getting shoved around on their defensive glass...I can see why Calipari go the 1st one....ESPECIALLY after the NCAA's video bulletin emphasized calling fouls during block out/rebounds....

Of course you can. You'll do everything you can to justify his behavior and, more or less, pin the blame on the crew.

pizanno Sat Feb 13, 2016 03:07pm

Simmons not reseting on laurels...
 
I see he had two more technicals in 2nd half, including KU asst coach. Good for him, though wondering if partners had opportunity.

SC Official Sat Feb 13, 2016 03:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by pizanno (Post 980766)
I see he had two more technicals in 2nd half, including KU asst coach. Good for him, though wondering if partners had opportunity.

twocentsworth will probably attribute it to the official being a poor communicator.

Adam Sat Feb 13, 2016 04:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 980744)
Kentucky was getting shoved around on their defensive glass...I can see why Calipari go the 1st one....ESPECIALLY after the NCAA's video bulletin emphasized calling fouls during block out/rebounds....

I think there was an over the back that could have been called.

SNIPERBBB Sat Feb 13, 2016 07:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 980777)
I think there was an over the back that could have been called.

Surely you mean a pushing foul, yes?

Cue Billy....

Adam Sat Feb 13, 2016 09:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 980785)
Surely you mean a pushing foul, yes?

Cue Billy....

I was being facetious, but I meant what I said. The ONLY thing I saw on replay was an SC player teaching over a UK kid who didn't bother to jump. Nothing to call, IOW.

Adam Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:37am

Let's get back on track, folks. I've just deleted some posts because there's no need to pile on here.

BillyMac Sun Feb 14, 2016 01:18pm

Imagine Will Rogers Posting On The Forum ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 980785)
Surely you mean a pushing foul, yes? Cue Billy....

Sorry I'm late to the table. I've been trying figure out how to keep my chickens from freezing to death. I keep telling them that they can't sleep with me, but they won't listen.

Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game

Calvin Coolidge once said, "The things I did not say never hurt me." Of course, he was not talking about basketball, but many officials would be smart to heed his sage advice as they communicate with coaches, and players.

Good communication skills are important tools to have on any official’s tool belt. Good communication with a partner, with a player, or with a coach, can go a long way to maintaining control of the game, having good game management, and having a smooth game. Sometimes this communication takes place in oral form, talking to players, or coaches, in some cases to explain a ruling, or in other cases to prevent a violation, or a foul. However, probably for reasons of tradition, there have been things that officials often, or sometimes, say during a game that do not have any basis in the rules, and should probably not be said in a game. This article will cover some of those “best left unsaid” statements.

"Over the back", reported by an official to the table on a rebounding foul, is, in reality, probably a pushing foul. Over the back is not necessarily a foul. There must be illegal contact to have a foul. A taller player may often be able to get a rebound over a shorter player, even if the shorter player has good rebounding position. If the shorter player is displaced, then a pushing foul must be called, and this should be reported to the table as such.

Finally, a thought by Will Rogers, “Never miss a good chance to shut up.”

For the record, I knew exactly what Adam really meant in the context of his post. I also doubt that he uses the phrase, "Over the back", when he reports fouls to the table.

AremRed Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:49pm

Anyone notice Sirmons run across the court to Cal before he gave the T? I can't imagine that is a good way to de-escalate things.

Rich Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:19pm

Perhaps his goal wasn't to de-escalate there.

Adam Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 980932)
Perhaps his goal wasn't to de-escalate there.

Yep, may have been too late for that.

bballref3966 Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 980931)
Anyone notice Sirmons run across the court to Cal before he gave the T? I can't imagine that is a good way to de-escalate things.

Sirmons has worked three Final Fours. I think he knows what he's doing.


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