Univ of New Mexico @ San Diego State: Throw In Violation

[deecee]

What's wrong with public criticism. This is a black or white call. Official got it wrong and it was admitted. Nothing can be done about it and the official shouldn't get punished, but the statement is correct. The play being close in real time or not doesn't change the fact that it's either right or wrong and consensus can be gained.

It's different with block/charge or contact fouls.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

What's wrong with public criticism. This is a black or white call. Official got it wrong and it was admitted. Nothing can be done about it and the official shouldn't get punished, but the statement is correct. The play being close in real time or not doesn't change the fact that it's either right or wrong and consensus can be gained.

It's different with block/charge or contact fouls.

I believe he is talking about the conference saying something. I tend to agree with that opinion.

Peace

[deecee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I believe he is talking about the conference saying something. I tend to agree with that opinion.

Peace

I don't see anything wrong with the conference admitting an incorrect call like this one. It's obvious it was the wrong call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

I don't see anything wrong with the conference admitting an incorrect call like this one. It's obvious it was the wrong call.

It is obvious if you slow it down. It was not obvious enough IMO to call because the call it will bring scrutiny. I bet almost no one would have said anything if he passed on this call in the first place. It would have to be more obvious to call IMO in such a critical moment.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is obvious if you slow it down. It was not obvious enough IMO to call because the call it will bring scrutiny. I bet almost no one would have said anything if he passed on this call in the first place. It would have to be more obvious to call IMO in such a critical moment.

Peace

Right. If the conference had to determine the call was wrong after "careful review of slow-motion replays" it's probably not the best idea to call out the crew in public. The two other situations discussed in the Forum this year (NCAAW Big Sky - fouls reset in OT and NCAAW D3 - T at the end of regulation for team celebrating on the court) didn't require slow-motion replays. Those situations were mishandled. This is a judgment play.

[BigCat]

It doesn't look from the statement that its main purpose was to criticize the officials. They made it clear slow motion was required etc. Seems more like they wanted to inform people that the rule does not require both feet down to establish position and, perhaps more, that the play, by rule, is not reviewable.

(the knucklehead announcer was saying two feet necessary..over and over)

[griblets]

Originally Posted by BigCat

(the knucklehead announcer was saying two feet necessary..over and over)

Someone should be calling for HIM to be suspended!

[ballgame99]

He acted like he thought this was a spot throw in. He didn't give the 'you have the endline' signal but was saying something to the inbounder when he handed him the ball.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

He acted like he thought this was a spot throw in. He didn't give the 'you have the endline' signal but was saying something to the inbounder when he handed him the ball.

The signal he gave indicated to me he thought the player caught the ball with IB status and carried it OOB.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by Adam

The signal he gave indicated to me he thought the player caught the ball with IB status and carried it OOB.

What signal would you give if a team ran this play from a spot throw in? I believe you would still give the 'over and back'-type signal, would you not?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

What signal would you give if a team ran this play from a spot throw in? I believe you would still give the 'over and back'-type signal, would you not?

Or you could just use the stop clock mechanic and then point in the direction the other team is going. Either one would be good

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[Adam]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

What signal would you give if a team ran this play from a spot throw in? I believe you would still give the 'over and back'-type signal, would you not?

I can't answer for the guy in the video, but no I would not. The signal for a throw-in violation is simply to point at the spot, same as if the player just ran the endline on a spot throw in.

Then again, his signal is not what you'd use to signal an OOB violation, which is what I think he called. It was, however, descriptive of what the alleged call was.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

He acted like he thought this was a spot throw in. He didn't give the 'you have the endline' signal but was saying something to the inbounder when he handed him the ball.

As I was reading through the thread, this is what I was thinking. At least at the HS level I've never seen players smart enough to use this tactic when a non-designated spot throw-in is administered following a timeout.

I can't imagine it happens at the college level that much, either. So maybe the official got caught off guard, or maybe he just missed the call. Whatever the case, I'm glad I watched the clip; I'll be ready for it if it happens to me.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

At least at the HS level I've never seen players smart enough to use this tactic when a non-designated spot throw-in is administered following a timeout.

It doesn't happen often, but it's often enough that we should be ready for it. It's a good topic for the official's huddle during the TO.

And, be sure to either watch the clock and / or instruct the timer -- they are more likely to "get it wrong" than the officials.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It doesn't happen often, but it's often enough that we should be ready for it. It's a good topic for the official's huddle during the TO.

And, be sure to either watch the clock and / or instruct the timer -- they are more likely to "get it wrong" than the officials.

I've actually had coaches give us a heads up that they were planning on running this type of play.