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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 12:08am
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I don't see how 3 feet would be any more difficult to officiate than 6 feet. If the player is inside 3 feet you're counting anyway.
True within three feet, but it's a lot easier to officiate such action if the defender is between three feet and six feet away.

Setting the distance at three feet will encourage defenders to get closer to get a count going which will also set up a situation where contact, or a held ball, or a timeout, is likely.

These situations are unlikely with a count going at six feet, where a defender may just settle for a five second closely guarded violation, and will not have to move in for the coup de grâce.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 01:23am
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Only change I want is to make the equipment rules punishable beyond making the player change/remove the item. Force the coaches to be the fashion police instead of us.

If they have to sit an entire game because players run on the court with illegal leg sleeves, they probably won't make that mistake a second time.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 09:10am
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Only change I want is to make the equipment rules punishable beyond making the player change/remove the item. Force the coaches to be the fashion police instead of us.

If they have to sit an entire game because players run on the court with illegal leg sleeves, they probably won't make that mistake a second time.
I would like to know to what extent, if any, are coaches held responsible for their players wearing illegal uniforms, undershirts, etc. I get the feeling that they aren't held responsible at all, and therefore policing those rules has been left to us.

Issue fines to schools whose coaches aren't abiding the rules. Making it warning the first time, then a small fine, etc... I don't care. But we have enough to think about and do for the actual game.

And if they care so much about those fashion rules, then this is the best way to avoid them being broken.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 01:54pm
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I would like to know to what extent, if any, are coaches held responsible for their players wearing illegal uniforms, undershirts, etc. I get the feeling that they aren't held responsible at all, and therefore policing those rules has been left to us.

Issue fines to schools whose coaches aren't abiding the rules. Making it warning the first time, then a small fine, etc... I don't care. But we have enough to think about and do for the actual game.

And if they care so much about those fashion rules, then this is the best way to avoid them being broken.
For illegal UNIFORMS, the head coach gets a direct T.

Everything else such as headbands, tights, sleeves, t-shirts, etc. are PLAYER EQUIPMENT, and those rules apply.

As to penalties for illegal player equipment, currently the player(s) are simply not allowed to be on the court, including warm-ups, if they do not comply with those rules, but changes may be coming in the future - North Carolina is currently in the 2nd year of an experimental rule .....for illegal player equipment the head coach gets a direct T, just like for illegal uniforms.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 02:28pm
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For illegal UNIFORMS, the head coach gets a direct T.

Everything else such as headbands, tights, sleeves, t-shirts, etc. are PLAYER EQUIPMENT, and those rules apply.

As to penalties for illegal player equipment, currently the player(s) are simply not allowed to be on the court, including warm-ups, if they do not comply with those rules, but changes may be coming in the future - North Carolina is currently in the 2nd year of an experimental rule .....for illegal player equipment the head coach gets a direct T, just like for illegal uniforms.
That's what I get for writing here at work.

I like the bigger penalty. Just something so coaches take care of it.

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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 02:34pm
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For illegal UNIFORMS, the head coach gets a direct T.

Everything else such as headbands, tights, sleeves, t-shirts, etc. are PLAYER EQUIPMENT, and those rules apply.

As to penalties for illegal player equipment, currently the player(s) are simply not allowed to be on the court, including warm-ups, if they do not comply with those rules, but changes may be coming in the future - North Carolina is currently in the 2nd year of an experimental rule .....for illegal player equipment the head coach gets a direct T, just like for illegal uniforms.
Question, maybe you don't know.

With the experimental rule, do the players get to participate with the illegal equipment at the cost of a T just like they participate with illegal uniforms at the cost of a T?
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 04:18pm
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Question, maybe you don't know.

With the experimental rule, do the players get to participate with the illegal equipment at the cost of a T just like they participate with illegal uniforms at the cost of a T?
The NC powerpoint I found online wasn't expressly clear on that - maybe someone from NC can respond here? It was clear on the penalty for not enforcing the rule - 2 week suspension for the entire officials crew.

My hope is that they would still need to correct the illegal player equipment before being allowed to participate - my rationale for that is that while illegal uniforms are something that might not be easily or readily corrected, illegal player equipment is - they just take it off.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2016, 05:26pm
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The NC powerpoint I found online wasn't expressly clear on that - maybe someone from NC can respond here? It was clear on the penalty for not enforcing the rule - 2 week suspension for the entire officials crew.

My hope is that they would still need to correct the illegal player equipment before being allowed to participate - my rationale for that is that while illegal uniforms are something that might not be easily or readily corrected, illegal player equipment is - they just take it off.
Not only that, but illegal equipment also applies to dangerous equipment such as jewelry.
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