Three Person Game In Connecticut ...

[Rich]

What a great opportunity missed to give a JV official a shot to work a varsity game -- working 3-person in both.

I've worked almost 40 3-person games this season and no 2-person games. Haven't had a bit of soreness this year *at all* -- first time in a long, long time. I attribute a lot of that to not having to work the perimeter as the T as hard as you have to in a 2-person game.

[jTheUmp]

3-person for JV and 2-person for Varsity?

That's... backwards.

We've got a few conferences around here that ask for 2 for JV and 3 for varsity... most of the time, we end up having all three officials work both games and split the combined fee equally... which means that we make about $7 less than we would if they paid full 3-person fee for both games. I'm hoping that goes away next year.

[MechanicGuy]

3-man JV crew...to a 2-man V crew

Logic!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

3-person for JV and 2-person for Varsity?

The two varsity officials in the junior varsity game were given a choice (with input from the junior varsity official) of working a three person junior varsity game, or with the two varsity officials alternating junior varsity periods in a two person junior varsity game. We chose the former.

The purpose of this odd setup is to cover for a shortage of junior varsity officials. We had a recent explosion of magnet/charter schools needing officials for their games, and we only had sixteen new officials in this year's cadet class. Add that to a lot of illness, and injuries, this season, especially to subvarsity officials.

Not the best setup, but now the camel's got a nose under the side of the tent.

[jpgc99]

The decision to assign a 3 man JV crew followed by a 2 man Varsity crew is a worse decision than wearing a belt.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

The decision to assign a 3 man JV crew followed by a 2 man Varsity crew is a worse decision than wearing a belt.

No it's not. At least it gives that young JV official some 3-man experience. Their other choice is to assign one of the Varsity official a 2-man DH.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

No it's not. At least it gives that young JV official some 3-man experience. Their other choice is to assign one of the Varsity official a 2-man DH.

Why not assign that young JV official to the varsity game? Then he gets 3 man experience and Varsity experience. In the long run this approach would also help get the schools on board for 3 man varsity games.

Ultimately if the association/league have no desire to move to 3 man crews for varsity games, the experience at the JV level becomes irrelevant.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

Why not assign that young JV official to the varsity game? Then he gets 3 man experience and Varsity experience. In the long run this approach would also help get the schools on board for 3 man varsity games.

Ultimately if the association/league have no desire to move to 3 man crews for varsity games, the experience at the JV level becomes irrelevant.

It's still a business. The school is only playing X amount of $$$ for those games, which equals the pay for a 2-man crew on each game. It's not leagues/associations that prevent 3-man crews, it's the schools.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

Why not assign that young JV official to the varsity game?

Most aren't ready for a game that "counts". Our junior varsity guy was a second year official.

Originally Posted by jpgc99

Ultimately if the association/league have no desire to move to 3 man crews for varsity games, the experience at the JV level becomes irrelevant.

We (officials) have the desire. The State interscholastic sports governing body has the desire. Coaches don't want three person crews. The successful coaches (who are the most vocal, and get the most attention) that press, and play man to man defense, believe it will lead to their best players getting in early foul trouble.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich

What a great opportunity missed to give a JV official a shot to work a varsity game -- working 3-person in both.

I've worked almost 40 3-person games this season and no 2-person games. Haven't had a bit of soreness this year *at all* -- first time in a long, long time. I attribute a lot of that to not having to work the perimeter as the T as hard as you have to in a 2-person game.

You are correct there. You don't have to work the perimeter as hard, but I think overall, if you still hustle and do what you are supposed to do you come out of there physically tired.

Not saying that anybody on this board isn't hustling whether it's 2 man or 3 man.

I just feel the same physically in a 2 or 3 man game. Now an up and down game might be a little different. Especially if you get the luxury of being in the "C" for a good chunk of a game like that.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

You are correct there. You don't have to work the perimeter as hard, but I think overall, if you still hustle and do what you are supposed to do you come out of there physically tired.

Not saying that anybody on this board isn't hustling whether it's 2 man or 3 man.

I just feel the same physically in a 2 or 3 man game. Now an up and down game might be a little different. Especially if you get the luxury of being in the "C" for a good chunk of a game like that.

My point is that I think different parts of the body are worked. The achilles tendonitis that has plagued me the last 10+ years hasn't touched me this season.

I still run as hard up and down the floor and still sweat just as much -- I just move *differently* in 2-person than I do in 3-person.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich

My point is that I think different parts of the body are worked. The achilles tendonitis that has plagued me the last 10+ years hasn't touched me this season.

I still run as hard up and down the floor and still sweat just as much -- I just move *differently* in 2-person than I do in 3-person.

I hear ya! I think if you have any sort of ailment, a 3 man crew can help with that. Just another benefit!