Running Out Of Locker Room

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Yes, it's part of the unsporting behavior rule.

How can a new/newer official know a 5-year-old interpretation, if it doesn't appear in a contemporary rule or case book? Was the case deleted because the ruling was changed or abandoned or subsequently deemed wrong? If the reasoning for its disappearance isn't apparent, how can the ruling be considered authoritative?

Is the conduct disrespectful or taunting? Without more, I don't see this.

[deecee]

When I see a team about to run out I tell them they can only run around their half of the court. If a team runs around the whole court, and I didn't get an opportunity to tell them this I wouldn't T. But I would tell the coach and if I had them again and they did it I would then T.

In all cases when I have told a coach they have always said that I'm the first to have brought this to their attention.

It's similar to after introductions when team huddle at mid court, which they are not allowed to do. They get one warning, but I usually make it out to them to move them to their FT area by their bench.

The issue is that officials are not enforcing these rules so is it wise to be the lone wolf? If you know a coach or team has been warned before then by all means T them, but to just throw a T out when enforcement for this is slim to none (at least in my area) is OO in my opinion.

Not ideal by any means but its the reality.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by LRZ

How can a new/newer official know a 5-year-old interpretation, if it doesn't appear in a contemporary rule or case book? Was the case deleted because the ruling was changed or abandoned or subsequently deemed wrong? If the reasoning for its disappearance isn't apparent, how can the ruling be considered authoritative?

Is the conduct disrespectful or taunting? Without more, I don't see this.

This was a POE, not a case book ruling. The purpose was to emphasize a type of unsportsmanlike behavior that had apparently become a problem and needed to be addressed.

I'm with Deecee on this, be preventative to avoid havig to penalize if possible - if they ignore you, you still have the penalty to fall back on, but honestly, I've never had to go that far. Most of the time it isn't an issue as the players are usually on the court before the officials, but once in awhile it happens. More common is the huddling at mid court - a couple times this season we have had to move them to their half of the court.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

How can a new/newer official know a 5-year-old interpretation, if it doesn't appear in a contemporary rule or case book?

The NFHS is infamous for coming up with Points of Emphases without changing the rulebook (excessive swinging of elbows with contact above the shoulders, protecting the free throw shooter, etc.). I really wish that they would stop doing this, but if I'm a veteran, and know the point of emphasis, I'm going to follow it.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by LRZ

How can a new/newer official know a 5-year-old interpretation, if it doesn't appear in a contemporary rule or case book? Was the case deleted because the ruling was changed or abandoned or subsequently deemed wrong? If the reasoning for its disappearance isn't apparent, how can the ruling be considered authoritative?

Is the conduct disrespectful or taunting? Without more, I don't see this.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The NFHS is infamous for coming up with Points of Emphases without changing the rulebook (excessive swinging of elbows with contact above the shoulders, protecting the free throw shooter, etc.). I really wish that they would stop doing this, but if I'm a veteran, and know the point of emphasis, I'm going to follow it.

Billy: Just refer LRZ to me.

MTD, Sr.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by deecee

Let's use common sense here. They can't teleport to their end. The POE was for teams running AROUND the court. In this case let them come out on whichever line they choose (could be both).

Common sense says I'll let them run the entire team down the endline and then up a sideline, but I'm not letting them send half of the team one way and half of the team the other way.

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

Duh, looking for uniform violations and using my NFHS issued tape measure to measure length of hair barrettes

If the barrettes are metal, not measurement needed. Has anyone else worked in places where the girls think it's OK to put white athletic tape in their hair to cover up the metal barrettes or bobby pins?