I agree with what Rich said regarding the fact that to many officials incorrectly DO NOT award shooting fouls when they should.

Also from what you have posted I would suggest you brush up on what defines a shot and continuous motion. Taking a step does not negate a shot attempt after a foul.

Did B1's drive to the bucket originate in your primary as the T? Your post seems to imply that it did.

Regardless, I think you handled it well. All you can do is ask your partner what he had and listen to his response, and move on. There is learning in that exercise alone, even if a discussion doesn't ensue.

Do you get game films through HUDL? Film review is an outstanding tool.

Yes the drive did originate from my primary.

No game films through HUDL.

This doesn't matter. And I do hope the home coach didn't know you disagreed with the call.

Of course not, we lined up and shot the free throw and moved on.

Good!

Probably biased for HS but post season games you need officials votes, well, kinda, but they are important. I always ask in a way that says I didn't get a perfect look and want to know if I missed anything. For whatever reason it makes officials love you.

Well said. Not sure there is much you can do about when the guy making the call counts the basket.

You asked him about it and had a conversation. End of story. Best case scenario, it got him thinking that maybe he was wrong and he will do better next time.

It's hard being a good partner
 

You asked for input:

Remembering, on the court you are a team and protect each other! What if roles were reversed? In the locker room a partner asked a judgement question and a judgement answer was given. Share knowledge and agree to disagree then move on. Otherwise, the impression is that you are inflexible.

While on the court there might of been an opportunity to protect a partner with a simple comment to the coach, "I had the same call."

If you want a good partner, maybe start out by "being" a good partner?

Tough situation; compliments on not making public a disagreement.

Hope this helps.

I thought it was hard to be a bad partner. Hah.

It's helpful and i think some good concepts. I'm not sure I could have used them in this situation as I was opposite bench side and really didn't have a chance to communicate with the coach at that moment.

I also don't think I would want to tell the coach I had the same call if I didn't have a whistle. Maybe just a slight reword of it looked like a good call to me. Small difference in wording but back to your point of having your partners back can be helpful. I had a coach ask me last night about a travel and I gave him that response to back this same partner.

My $.02. I only ask my partner what they saw on a play IF

1. It was in my primary, I had a good look and passed OR
2. I see something really funky, usually in their primary and there is NO call

Other that that I don't care. I do get upset when a partner makes a call in my primary that is a marginal call that I may have passed on, especially since I always pre-game that we are responsible (1) for getting the calls right and (2) if we have to reach make sure its' one we have to get.

I also don't speak for my partner to a coach, and we pregame this as well. Unless I HAD the same call I never tell a coach that. IF he has a question about my partners call I instruct the coach to ask my partner the first opportunity he has. I hope my partners offer the same courtesy.

It's also a pet peeve when a partner makes a face at a call they may disagree with. I have worked with a couple guys that are such ball hawks I have had to actually make off ball calls in their primary while I have the ball in mine.

Trust your partners. If their judgement gets them into situations, let them handle it until they ask for help.

"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement."
- my mother

I would not recommend lying to a coach. There are other ways to be a good partner. If you disagreed with the call (but, as if often the case, can do nothing about it) find something better to say. In the soccer context (I'm a soccer ref but merely a basketball dad), I've used things like, "coach, he's forty yards closer than you are and had a great angle." "Coach, he had a better look at that than either you or I did." "It's been called the same way all day." But I will never lie to a coach. Period. YMMV. (This also means I very rarely will say it was a good call -- I don't want a negative inference if I don't.)

Yep

The primary was definitely shared.

Question for the OP: did the crew pre-game that scenario?

Yes. The NBA rule is that continuation begins as the player exits the locker room. :rolleyes: