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[Rich]

Watching the 3 officials, I'm just not sure how they came up with 1.0 second.

I had a last second shot at halftime this year I waved off. 0.4 seconds on the clock. Kid caught the inbounds pass with his back to the basket, turned with a dribble, and shot. No chance this took 0.4 seconds or less and I waved it off without really worrying myself if the shot beat the clock. Either it didn't or if it did, the clock operator was in error.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Rich

Watching the 3 officials, I'm just not sure how they came up with 1.0 second.

I had a last second shot at halftime this year I waved off. 0.4 seconds on the clock. Kid caught the inbounds pass with his back to the basket, turned with a dribble, and shot. No chance this took 0.4 seconds or less and I waved it off without really worrying myself if the shot beat the clock. Either it didn't or if it did, the clock operator was in error.

The T may have glanced up at the clock the moment the ball cleared the net. Just stopping the video while watching the clip it appears as though the crew got the 0:01.0 part of things right.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

The T may have glanced up at the clock the moment the ball cleared the net. Just stopping the video while watching the clip it appears as though the crew got the 0:01.0 part of things right.

I watched the video without sound. Can you hear a whistle in it? Did you pause it right after that?
I don't want posters to be confused by the college rule of the clock stopping when the ball clears the net. That is not the appropriate stopping point in NFHS games.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I watched the video without sound. Can you hear a whistle in it? Did you pause it right after that?
I don't want posters to be confused by the college rule of the clock stopping when the ball clears the net. That is not the appropriate stopping point in NFHS games.

The clock continues to run properly after the make, and the first reaction I see from an official comes from the lead, and appears to be at about 0.3. I'm surprised the timeout wasn't granted quicker by the opposite C, seems like a perfect time to be looking for the quick timeout after a basket.

[JRutledge]

The clock stopping at :01 seems right. Again totally dependent on the request of the timeout by the coach. I have no issues with that being the time on the clock.

Now the last second shot, that is another story.



Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by frezer11

The clock continues to run properly after the make, and the first reaction I see from an official comes from the lead, and appears to be at about 0.3. I'm surprised the timeout wasn't granted quicker by the opposite C, seems like a perfect time to be looking for the quick timeout after a basket.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I watched the video without sound. Can you hear a whistle in it? Did you pause it right after that?
I don't want posters to be confused by the college rule of the clock stopping when the ball clears the net. That is not the appropriate stopping point in NFHS games.

I'll amend the earlier observation: 0:01.0 appears to be the right amount of time if that's when one of the officials - most likely the L since he was the first one to look at the home team's bench - recognized the HC was requesting a time out. I'm with JRut...no issues with the time on the clock on my end.

As JRut said, the last-second shot is another story.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I'll amend the earlier observation: 0:01.0 appears to be the right amount of time if that's when one of the officials - most likely the L since he was the first one to look at the home team's bench - recognized the HC was requesting a time out. I'm with JRut...no issues with the time on the clock on my end.

As JRut said, the last-second shot is another story.

Way to dodge the questions.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Way to dodge the questions.

What? As to whether I heard a whistle? No. However that also isn't what stops the clock.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I watched the video without sound. Can you hear a whistle in it? Did you pause it right after that?
I don't want posters to be confused by the college rule of the clock stopping when the ball clears the net. That is not the appropriate stopping point in NFHS games.

I cannot hear much sound from the highlight at all. The sound is muted big time as many highlights are done. Not sure what difference it makes, it is when the timeout is granted, not necessarily when the whistle blows.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I cannot hear much sound from the highlight at all. The sound is muted big time as many highlights are done. Not sure what difference it makes, it is when the timeout is granted, not necessarily when the whistle blows.

Wrong by rule!
Of course, you'll never admit it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Wrong by rule!
Of course, you'll never admit it.

Quote the rule?

Better yet here is Basketball Fundamental #16 says:

The official's whistle seldom causes the ball to become dead (it is already dead).

I will admit something when I see a rule you are referencing and if it does not fit the situation. They change the rules on lag time and nothing says the whistle is the only measure of when the clock stops.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Rule 5-10-1 says:

If the referee determines that the clock malfunctioned or was not started/stopped properly, or if the clock did not run, an official's count or other official information may be used to make a correction.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Nothing says the whistle is the only measure of when the clock stops.

How else is it supposed to stop?

You might want to check the actual rule:

Rule 5, SECTION 8 TIME-OUT, STOPPING PLAY
Time-out occurs and the clock, if running, shall be stopped when an official:
ART. 1 . . . Signals:
a. A foul.
b. A held ball.
c. A violation.
d. A time-out.

ART. 3 . . . Grants and signals a player’s/head coach’s oral or visual request for a time-out, such request being granted only when:

In this case, there was no rule justification for putting 1 second on the clock. No official signaled anything at that point.