Oregon State player trips official, ejected

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Maineac

I understood the point. I just don't happen to agree. The apparent fact that he is selfish and a poor teammate doesn't make this conduct any more or less heinous in my opinion.

If you don't agree then you don't understand the point. His team is going to be 10x more pissed at him for causing a shift in momentum(reducing their chance at winning) then they are for him acting like an idiot in a 20 point game. It is more idiotic to trip an official in a tie game compared to a game you have no chance at winning. This has nothing to do with it being more or less ethical.

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by Dad

If you don't agree then you don't understand the point. His team is going to be 10x more pissed at him for causing a shift in momentum(reducing their chance at winning) then they are for him acting like an idiot in a 20 point game. It is more idiotic to trip an official in a tie game compared to a game you have no chance at winning. This has nothing to do with it being more or less ethical.

It actually is possible to both understand the point and disagree with it. And you. I understand his team will be "10x more pissed." I just don't care what his team thinks. Not sure why I should.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Maineac

I understand his team will be "10x more pissed."

Hence there is a difference based on the score of the game. Whether you care or not is irrelevant. They had a scene about this sort of thing in Inside Out.

[JRutledge]

If he is a key player, it does not matter what the score is because he is going to be lost for a few games at the very least. It was a tie game and he will be lost for some time and for his sake hope it is not lose for a much longer time. The school might take action as well. He embarrassed the school as much as anything.

Peace

[OrStBballRef]

One of these days I'm going to be able to complete a NCAA bracket with my alma mater (Oregon State), but it may not be this year /sigh...

So I watched the second half. About less than 6 minutes to play in that game we had a series of 3 fouls go against us within 1-2 trips down the court. One of those plays the kid who tripped the ref, Reid, flopped on the play (no call) and then while on the ground caused another Utah player to trip and a block was called on him. Both the non-call and the blocking calls were good ones IMO

I think Nunez was the official with the no call and then the block on Reid, IIRC. Then a trip or two down the court later the whole tripping incident occurred. Reid was probably frustrated at the prior blocking foul on him.

Reading my twitter post-game stuff related to OSU the media folks were of course saying from the HC the player had no idea the ref was there and didn't know what he did to earn the T (BS). Same ol stuff we deal with on our end.

We lost that game because we went ice cold the last 6-7 minutes of the game. I thought maybe one or two could have gone our way, but the bulk of the calls against us and the no-calls on our end were the right call.

Stupid thing Reid did and what pisses me off even more is he claims ignorance as to why he earned the T or what his actions were...just man up and admit your responsibility and deal with whatever consequences come up...

[UNIgiantslayers]

Quick question here:

Was it a T? Is NCAAm different from NFHS in that a T can only happen during dead ball situations? Am I splitting hairs? Just curious on that ruling and what I would do in that situation.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Quick question here:

Was it a T? Is NCAAm different from NFHS in that a T can only happen during dead ball situations? Am I splitting hairs? Just curious on that ruling and what I would do in that situation.

Yes it was a T. You are not correct when you say you can only have a T during a dead ball. You can only have dead ball contact be a T in NF and that is not what this was called for. This was unsporting behavior. The basic rule is the same in NCAA as it is for NF rules. The only issue is the FF2 or just a Flagrant Foul when speaking between the two codes.

Peace

[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yes it was a T. You are not correct when you say you can only have a T during a dead ball. You can only have dead ball contact be a T in NF and that is not what this was called for. This was unsporting behavior. The basic rule is the same in NCAA as it is for NF rules. The only issue is the FF2 or just a Flagrant Foul when speaking between the two codes.

Peace

Gotcha. I spaced on the unsporting behavior aspect. Good call.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by OrStBballRef

One of these days I'm going to be able to complete a NCAA bracket with my alma mater (Oregon State), but it may not be this year /sigh...

I hear you....we need another Ralph Miller.....

Reid really blew it big time. There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of behavior. One of the videos shows his eyes clearly tracking the official right before he sticks his leg out to trip him. Absolutely no question he earned the T & ejection - he should consider himself very lucky he only got a 4 game suspension, although from the announcement it is 4 games minimum, so it could potentially be longer.

Just heard on the news that he has apologized, so maye he got the message.....guess we'll see if/when he gets back on the court.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

I hear you....we need another Ralph Miller.....

Reid really blew it big time. There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of behavior. One of the videos shows his eyes clearly tracking the official right before he sticks his leg out to trip him. Absolutely no question he earned the T & ejection - he should consider himself very lucky he only got a 4 game suspension, although from the announcement it is 4 games minimum, so it could potentially be longer.

Just heard on the news that he has apologized, so maye he got the message.....guess we'll see if/when he gets back on the court.

Saw a tweet from him late at night that night, apparently (not a verified account) that was less than apologetic.

[Pantherdreams]

Darn dirty beavers.