Oregon State player trips official, ejected

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Maineac

I have to ask, what difference does the score make in something like this?

Because if the team is down by 20 when he gets upset thinking that he was just fouled and does something stupid, it only hurts him. He will get ejected and likely suspended. However, if the score is close, he is also hurting his team as it impacts their chance of winning. That was the point of the previous poster.

[RedAndWhiteRef]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Because if the team is down by 20 when he gets upset thinking that he was just fouled and does something stupid, it only hurts him. He will get ejected and likely suspended. However, if the score is close, he is also hurting his team as it impacts their chance of winning. That was the point of the previous poster.

Nailed it.

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Because if the team is down by 20 when he gets upset thinking that he was just fouled and does something stupid, it only hurts him. He will get ejected and likely suspended. However, if the score is close, he is also hurting his team as it impacts their chance of winning. That was the point of the previous poster.

I understood the point. I just don't happen to agree. The apparent fact that he is selfish and a poor teammate doesn't make this conduct any more or less heinous in my opinion.

[RedAndWhiteRef]

Originally Posted by Maineac

I understood the point. I just don't happen to agree. The apparent fact that he is selfish and a poor teammate doesn't make this conduct any more or less heinous in my opinion.

I agree with that. I was merely pointing out the sheer stupidity of the offender.

Tommy Nunez has seen some shit this year. I watched him ref a WNBA game two person after a ref pulled a hammy. Dee Kantner was there and Tommy motioned over that she should throw on her stuff but she didn't.

[bas2456]

Apparently it was his 5th foul anyway...but did they end up going with a flagrant 2? The video I saw didn't go long enough.

Originally Posted by bas2456

Apparently it was his 5th foul anyway...but did they end up going with a flagrant 2? The video I saw didn't go long enough.

They did, that is why the player went to the locker room instead of being able to sit on the bench.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Maineac

I understood the point. I just don't happen to agree. The apparent fact that he is selfish and a poor teammate doesn't make this conduct any more or less heinous in my opinion.

If you don't agree then you don't understand the point. His team is going to be 10x more pissed at him for causing a shift in momentum(reducing their chance at winning) then they are for him acting like an idiot in a 20 point game. It is more idiotic to trip an official in a tie game compared to a game you have no chance at winning. This has nothing to do with it being more or less ethical.

[Maineac]

Originally Posted by Dad

If you don't agree then you don't understand the point. His team is going to be 10x more pissed at him for causing a shift in momentum(reducing their chance at winning) then they are for him acting like an idiot in a 20 point game. It is more idiotic to trip an official in a tie game compared to a game you have no chance at winning. This has nothing to do with it being more or less ethical.

It actually is possible to both understand the point and disagree with it. And you. I understand his team will be "10x more pissed." I just don't care what his team thinks. Not sure why I should.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Maineac

I understand his team will be "10x more pissed."

Hence there is a difference based on the score of the game. Whether you care or not is irrelevant. They had a scene about this sort of thing in Inside Out.

[JRutledge]

If he is a key player, it does not matter what the score is because he is going to be lost for a few games at the very least. It was a tie game and he will be lost for some time and for his sake hope it is not lose for a much longer time. The school might take action as well. He embarrassed the school as much as anything.

Peace

[OrStBballRef]

One of these days I'm going to be able to complete a NCAA bracket with my alma mater (Oregon State), but it may not be this year /sigh...

So I watched the second half. About less than 6 minutes to play in that game we had a series of 3 fouls go against us within 1-2 trips down the court. One of those plays the kid who tripped the ref, Reid, flopped on the play (no call) and then while on the ground caused another Utah player to trip and a block was called on him. Both the non-call and the blocking calls were good ones IMO

I think Nunez was the official with the no call and then the block on Reid, IIRC. Then a trip or two down the court later the whole tripping incident occurred. Reid was probably frustrated at the prior blocking foul on him.

Reading my twitter post-game stuff related to OSU the media folks were of course saying from the HC the player had no idea the ref was there and didn't know what he did to earn the T (BS). Same ol stuff we deal with on our end.

We lost that game because we went ice cold the last 6-7 minutes of the game. I thought maybe one or two could have gone our way, but the bulk of the calls against us and the no-calls on our end were the right call.

Stupid thing Reid did and what pisses me off even more is he claims ignorance as to why he earned the T or what his actions were...just man up and admit your responsibility and deal with whatever consequences come up...

[UNIgiantslayers]

Quick question here:

Was it a T? Is NCAAm different from NFHS in that a T can only happen during dead ball situations? Am I splitting hairs? Just curious on that ruling and what I would do in that situation.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by OrStBballRef

One of these days I'm going to be able to complete a NCAA bracket with my alma mater (Oregon State), but it may not be this year /sigh...

I hear you....we need another Ralph Miller.....

Reid really blew it big time. There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of behavior. One of the videos shows his eyes clearly tracking the official right before he sticks his leg out to trip him. Absolutely no question he earned the T & ejection - he should consider himself very lucky he only got a 4 game suspension, although from the announcement it is 4 games minimum, so it could potentially be longer.

Just heard on the news that he has apologized, so maye he got the message.....guess we'll see if/when he gets back on the court.