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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:33pm
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Wondering if officials in Wisconsin have received any directives on these new "sportsmanship" rules.

Jimmy Carlton's Blogs: WIAA rules seek to curb student chants such as "air ball" and "scoreboard"
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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:43pm
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Please have this foolishness stay in Wisconsin.

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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:48pm
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Please have this foolishness stay in Wisconsin.

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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:04pm
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Please have this foolishness stay in Wisconsin.
Seems like this state is doing as it wishes.
Do you have a problem with that?
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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:08pm
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Seems like this state is doing as it wishes.
Do you have a problem with that?
Nope, I have no issues with what they are doing, just keep that mess up there. But you probably do not know they border our state. They can do what they want as I do not have a license. See I do not brow beat what other states should do because it is not in the rulebook. BTW, this is not a playing rule, but an administrative action. States have been doing that for years.

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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:16pm
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Nope, I have no issues with what they are doing, just keep that mess up there. But you probably do not know they border our state.
Do you really think that I don't know US geography?
I've driven from Chicago to Madison.

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They can do what they want as I do not have a license.
And if you did would that somehow change the situation and not allow them to do this? You are silly.

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See I do not brow beat what other states should do because it is not in the rulebook. BTW, this is not a playing rule, but an administrative action. States have been doing that for years.
Yep, it is administrative not a playing rule such as what type of foul gets assessed during a game. Now what was the situation in the other thread?...hmmm
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Do you really think that I don't know US geography?
I've driven from Chicago to Madison.


And if you did would that somehow change the situation and not allow them to do this? You are silly.



Yep, it is administrative not a playing rule such as what type of foul gets assessed during a game. Now what was the situation in the other thread?...hmmm
The point of my comment is I hope the IHSA or NF does not think this is a good idea. Maybe if they want to encourage those to not use certain terms, but please do not put this on the officials. I am not you, I do not care what other states do with their rules or officials. I do not have to work there.

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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:55pm
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I was hoping to hear from Wisconsin officials. Rich, you're an official and an assignor up there...have you heard anything from the state?
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Old Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:32pm
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Nope. The tweet/suspension was the first I heard of any of this. This has nothing to do with my role as an official.

I will say this. If the state is saying that this kind of thing by students is not acceptable then maybe the line needs to be redrawn for the adults in the stands and the coaches on the bench, too.
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When I was in HS (a few centuries ago) and an opponent was going to shoot a FT, we would chant:

SEE THAT BASKET
SEE THAT BALL
C'MON STUPID
HIT THE WALL

Pretty much all the boys from our school would chant this at home games but not on the road. We realized we were outnumbered on the road so we didn't want to deal with the ticked-off other kids.
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To me this should be a directive to game management. If I hear the crowd yelling, "start the bus up" I am going to assume they are letting the bus drivers know the game is about over and in Wisconsin, you want to get on a warm bus in January.
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To me this should be a directive to game management. If I hear the crowd yelling, "start the bus up" I am going to assume they are letting the bus drivers know the game is about over and in Wisconsin, you want to get on a warm bus in January.

Ain't that the truth!! There were a couple mornings it was -40 with wind chill when I lived in Wisconsin. And that wasn't even up north.

Even if a directive is sent to game management, how reasonable is their chance to successfully handle a crowd of students??


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Old Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:26am
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This is to be expected when mommies are running things and their babies get hurt feelings during a game.
Do any of you know a dad in America that cares about such nonsense?
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:37am
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This is to be expected when mommies are running things and their babies get hurt feelings during a game.
Do any of you know a dad in America that cares about such nonsense?
Let's just say that if my daughter posted a tweet like the one that started this whole thing that her relationship with social media would change until she was no longer living in my house.

I also want to mention that there is nothing new about these directions. The WIAA has sent out a sportsmanship reminder like this to schools' athletic directors since the late 1990s.

Because one school sent the memo to a student-athlete who then decided to post the memo on Twitter along with encouragement for the WIAA to consume bovine excrement -- that's why it's getting all this press. And why the player got suspended.

For me, it's the language, I have to admit. And I'm someone who isn't all that wound up about people using swear words in general. But saying "EAT SH-T WIAA" in a tweet is over the top. I couldn't get away with saying that and wouldn't want to. And yet that tweet is still up, days later. Perhaps if there was even a shred of remorse on the part of the player (she gave a sorry-but-not-sorry apology and left the tweet up) none of this would've been blown out of proportion by *everyone.*

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Wondering if officials in Wisconsin have received any directives on these new "sportsmanship" rules.

Jimmy Carlton's Blogs: WIAA rules seek to curb student chants such as "air ball" and "scoreboard"
Virginia could institute the same regulations and it wouldn't affect me as an official.
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