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Old Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:56pm
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I am putting ball in table side. If he wants to move to the other side, he can once I give him the ball.
As am I. It did get me thinking...in two man are you going opposite since the inbounding team is on the other end of the court? That would give the T a better chance to see a time out request in their peripheral and the L a better chance of seeing/hearing a request since it puts him/her nearer the bench.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2015, 01:06pm
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As am I. It did get me thinking...in two man are you going opposite since the inbounding team is on the other end of the court? That would give the T a better chance to see a time out request in their peripheral and the L a better chance of seeing/hearing a request since it puts him/her nearer the bench.
I cant help you with two man. Havent done or thought about two man mechanics in over a decade.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2015, 01:15pm
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I cant help you with two man. Havent done or thought about two man mechanics in over a decade.
Very jealous of 3 man areas coming from the land of 2 man. BillyMac, your "Welcome to Connecticut" picture is requested. (my idea of humor)
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2015, 07:27pm
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I am putting ball in table side. If he wants to move to the other side, he can once I give him the ball.
Same here.

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Old Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:16pm
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Don't we always resume play in the same positions we were before the timeout?
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:17pm
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Except the player can have the ball anywhere along the endline. Who am I to tell him where to start?
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2015, 12:03am
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Who am I to tell him where to start?
Not you, the Mechanics Manual.

I really wish the NFHS would give us the option to bounce the ball across the lane.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:44am
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Not you, the Mechanics Manual.

I really wish the NFHS would give us the option to bounce the ball across the lane.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:15am
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Except the player can have the ball anywhere along the endline. Who am I to tell him where to start?
They can make the throwin from anywhere along the line. Nothing says they get to pick where they get the ball, just that they can move to another spot if they like. Of course, on the flip side, there is nothing that says otherwise either.
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I had a game this year where each team had a situation where they made the request and we satisfied the request on each occasion. This was in a college game and the crew thought it was no big deal at all. And both my partners have been working college ball at least 20 years.

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I had a game this year where each team had a situation where they made the request and we satisfied the request on each occasion. This was in a college game and the crew thought it was no big deal at all. And both my partners have been working college ball at least 20 years.

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I'm shocked that crews simply wouldn't go "OK" and just do it. There are places where I draw a line in the sand, but this ain't it.

We give benches the spot on a designated spot throw-in. For an end line runner, why exactly can't they request a starting spot? Nobody's given me a good reason yet.
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2016, 12:28pm
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I'm shocked that crews simply wouldn't go "OK" and just do it. There are places where I draw a line in the sand, but this ain't it.

We give benches the spot on a designated spot throw-in. For an end line runner, why exactly can't they request a starting spot? Nobody's given me a good reason yet.
It is an extremely rare request. Most officials probably never get this request and when they do, it is confusing. I will say this again, I have only been asked for this request once and it was so confusing the coach got mad and had to be T'd. Then when he complained to the assignor, the assignor laughed it off. And as a clinician with my state, this is never discussed because I doubt anyone gets this request.

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Old Fri Jan 01, 2016, 01:24pm
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It is an extremely rare request ... as a clinician with my state, this is never discussed because I doubt anyone gets this request.
True, it's an extremely rare request, but when it is requested, the NFHS should have some rule in place allowing officials to deal with the request. Either give it to the inbounder where the official wants it to be inbounded and let the inbounder run, or give it to the inbounder where the inbounder wants it.

Even without a request for a certain spot after a made basket, where time out is requested, and granted, with the ball still on the floor IAABO (and possibly NFHS) mechanics are ambivalent regarding where the inbounder will be handed the ball. Should officials inbound it for convenience sake (table side, or opposite table side) or should they inbound it as they were set up before the time out request? I would like to see this spelled out. Of course I would like own a villa in Tuscany, but that ain't gonna happen, is it?
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2016, 01:32pm
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True, it's an extremely rare request, but when it is requested, the NFHS should have some rule in place allowing officials to deal with the request. Either give it to the inbounder where the official wants it to be inbounded and let the inbounder run, or give it to the inbounder where the inbounder wants it.
The request is so rare, I bet no one even thinks about this. Why come up with a policy that never is an issue?


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Old Fri Jan 01, 2016, 01:55pm
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It is an extremely rare request. Most officials probably never get this request and when they do, it is confusing. I will say this again, I have only been asked for this request once and it was so confusing the coach got mad and had to be T'd. Then when he complained to the assignor, the assignor laughed it off. And as a clinician with my state, this is never discussed because I doubt anyone gets this request.

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I've gotten it twice in the last year and a half. BNR got it twice at the college level. We're somebodies, I'd think. I may be not as much of a somebody as he is, however.

Frankly, I respect the coach that does this. He understands the rule and asks a reasonable question/request from the crew. I'd accept the request and notify the other bench. Big whoop.
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