Using the body to control the dribble

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BigT

I try to go around my back and my hip gets in the way and helps me control the dribble so I can maintain it.

I am dribbling between my legs and start to lose it use my leg to push it back to my left hand to continue the dribble.

I am looking through the book to find something on this. I know people have called an illegal dribble when using hips, thighs, etc to help dribble or control the ball. Cant remember why this is sometimes called and sometimes not. That is why I wanted to start this discussion.

What you are describing, I see mostly as a player losing the ball. Not sure there is a reason to call an illegal dribble or any violation.

Peace

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What you are describing, I see mostly as a player losing the ball. Not sure there is a reason to call an illegal dribble or any violation.

Peace

I agree. But, I had a discussion with a partner about this a week ago who said she saw a player pin the ball (clumsily) to her leg. I told her I didn't see it, but to me, via her description, it sounded like the dribble had ended. From there, it's possible she could travel (illegal), simply stop moving (pivot foot established and no travel = legal), or fumble.

I wouldn't overthink this. Ask yourself, "did the dribble end?" and go from there.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I agree. But, I had a discussion with a partner about this a week ago who said she saw a player pin the ball (clumsily) to her leg. I told her I didn't see it, but to me, via her description, it sounded like the dribble had ended. From there, it's possible she could travel (illegal), simply stop moving (pivot foot established and no travel = legal), or fumble.

I wouldn't overthink this. Ask yourself, "did the dribble end?" and go from there.

All I am saying is usually when the ball goes off their body, they lose control of the ball on some level. And if that is the case, I am not considering that an illegal dribble, but probably and interrupted one. The rule about an ended dribble is not about just touching your body, but what you are doing with your hands as it relates to the ball. If your hand did not stop the ball, I have a hard time calling a violation for that action and calling an illegal dribble. I think this honestly is trying to find something wrong when nothing really is wrong.

Peace

[so cal lurker]

When I was playing back in the early 80's, I recall it being called double dribble because the leg or hip was a second touch between bounces -- for those who've been around since Naismith, was that ever the right call?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

When I was playing back in the early 80's, I recall it being called double dribble because the leg or hip was a second touch between bounces -- for those who've been around since Naismith, was that ever the right call?

This is the other possible violation. There is a rule prohibiting a dribbler from touching the ball twice between bounces. Rare call, but illegal dribble is the violation. Is the intent of this rule to apply to the ball deflecting off the leg or body though? Seems that a double touch with the hands is what the rule is designed to prevent.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is a rule prohibiting a dribbler from touching the ball twice between bounces.

Reference? I don't have my books handy, but I don't recall that.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Reference? I don't have my books handy, but I don't recall that.

I believe he is referring to 15.2 "During a dribble the ball may be batted into the air provided it is permitted to strike the floor before the ball is touched again with the hand(s)"

That obviously can't apply to the hip/leg, however.