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Old Sat Dec 26, 2015, 04:27pm
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Lawsuit doesn't have to amount to anything, but it still cost to defend yourself.
Had there been an injury and that video was submitted as evidence... That Lead has some explaining to do.
Wouldn't cost me anything but time and a phone call -- it's why I have been an NASO member for a long time.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2015, 04:37pm
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Lawsuit doesn't have to amount to anything, but it still cost to defend yourself.
Had there been an injury and that video was submitted as evidence... That Lead has some explaining to do.
No, he doesn't. He's not a cop, he's not security. Not his job nor is it assumed that he would have competence in physically ending a brawl. Hell, that WAS my real job (along with others in our association) and we were told that we were not to act any differently from any other official in brawl situations (not that we had to be told, because we know better.)
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2015, 05:58pm
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Lawsuit doesn't have to amount to anything, but it still cost to defend yourself.
Had there been an injury and that video was submitted as evidence... That Lead has some explaining to do.
Serious question: Do you have any idea what you're talking about or just saying whatever comes to mind?

There is infinitely more that can go wrong in most situations if you get involved than if you just watch. You can claim random events about people having to go to court to defend themselves because they only observed. This just isn't true. You can't compare NBA events to HS events when money amounts change litigation procedures.

If a player gets injured at the HS level they will be going after the assaulter or the school. Why would they ever care to waste there time going after an official? Especially since I'm hoping most officials pick up there phone and then are done.

Telling officials to observe instead of break up fights is substantially better advice at the high school level.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2015, 06:46pm
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Sub varsity game:Very often there is only one coach and he left the other immature minors to run on the court... likely they will follow him - unfortunately.
So to "stir the pot"
Do we really need the coach on the floor for a fight?
I was at the NASO conference in STL this summer and during a presentation, an attorney said: Good officials Don't let athletes fight during their game"... He goes on to say: Don't think you won't be sued if a kid gets hurt during that fight and there's video footage of you standing there watching.
His illustration was NBA officals: Arguably the best officials in our game.
His question: Do you ever see NBA Officials backing away from a fight?
Answer: Hell no! They are dealing with the strongest basketball players in the world and they stop the fight - always!

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Was the lawyer Alan Goldberger by any chance?

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Old Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:06pm
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RefHoop:

Was the lawyer Alan Goldberger by any chance?

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Yup!
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:17pm
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My state has said that we are not to get involved in breaking up a fracas.

That's all the guidance I care about.
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Yup!

I know Allan, and I do not believe that he would make such a statement.

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