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Old Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:35pm
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Coaches comment says it all. Good call.
Yup. Coached essentially admitted it was intentional and thus completely deserving of a T.

That said, I wish they'd change this call and make it a violation, matching the penalty for leaving the court.
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Old Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:56pm
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I wish they'd change this call and make it a violation, matching the penalty for leaving the court.
I made an official suggestion to the NFHS for this this past off season. It made it all the way to the final agenda for the new rules committees, but didn't make it any further than that.

Delete: Rule 10 Section 3 PLAYER TECHNICAL- Art. 2 …Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds.

Note: Delete language from PLAYER TECHNICAL and move to Rule 9 Violations and Penalties Section 3

OUT OF BOUNDS Art.3 … A player shall not leave the court for an unauthorized reason nor shall a player purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds.

Rationale: Change 10-3-2 from a technical foul to a violation. Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds should carry the same penalty as leaving the court for an unauthorized reason
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Old Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:04pm
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Yup. Coached essentially admitted it was intentional and thus completely deserving of a T.

That said, I wish they'd change this call and make it a violation, matching the penalty for leaving the court.
This stupid call, or at least calls like it will forever scar me.

Second varsity game this year working with a "20-year" guy and he wacks a kid for running out of bounds trying to run around a defender. I just about lost it when at half-time he says, "Nah, he ran back onto the court I had to T him."

This is easily my biggest pet-peeve call of all time.

As a player, in a HS semi-final state game I cherry picked. I catch the ball and the official wacked me for "deceiving" the players. Probably should've ejected me for my choice words in how I said I never left the court. He said it didn't matter. My next few words got me my only ejection in HS ball.

Forget this call.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:29am
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This stupid call, or at least calls like it will forever scar me.

Second varsity game this year working with a "20-year" guy and he wacks a kid for running out of bounds trying to run around a defender. I just about lost it when at half-time he says, "Nah, he ran back onto the court I had to T him."

This is easily my biggest pet-peeve call of all time.

As a player, in a HS semi-final state game I cherry picked. I catch the ball and the official wacked me for "deceiving" the players. Probably should've ejected me for my choice words in how I said I never left the court. He said it didn't matter. My next few words got me my only ejection in HS ball.

Forget this call.
This is a violation, not a T, so he actually misapplied the rule.

What other rules do you suggest we set aside and "forget"?
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:35am
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This is a violation, not a T, so he actually misapplied the rule.

What other rules do you suggest we set aside and "forget"?
Red: Hence my following sentence. I was aware.

Green: I'm not setting aside anything.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:41am
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Red: Hence my following sentence. I was aware.
You never said anything about the correct ruling. You only said that your partner's call was a pet peeve.

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Green: I'm not setting aside anything.
You said "forget this call." Elaborate on what you mean by that if you're not implying that the rule should be ignored.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:44am
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You said "forget this call." Elaborate on what you mean by that if you're not implying that the rule should be ignored.
He is not saying he is not going to follow the rule, he is saying he hates that a referee whacked a kid this year for simply running out of bounds and hated when a referee whacked him for cherry-picking as a player. Basically he hates when a referee misapplies or does not understand the spirit of the rule.

"Forget that" is a more PC version of saying "F--- that".
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:38am
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Tactic by newer coach several years ago made it waaaaay too easy for even newer official:
Throw-in by A1 from his own endline. He releases the ball and just stands there rather than entering the court after the throw-in. Coach yells, "Not yet...Not yet...Not yet...Not yet...NOW!" Thrower-inner steps onto the court and receives pass for easy, uncontested shot from the lower block. Newer official, taken by surprise by the admittedly rare situation, finally blows whistle and pauses momentarily. Gives the T signal.
Late, but right. Just took a little time to register what was going on.
The coach, of course, had no clue . . .
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Old Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:20pm
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This stupid call, or at least calls like it will forever scar me.

Second varsity game this year working with a "20-year" guy and he wacks a kid for running out of bounds trying to run around a defender. I just about lost it when at half-time he says, "Nah, he ran back onto the court I had to T him."

This is easily my biggest pet-peeve call of all time.

As a player, in a HS semi-final state game I cherry picked. I catch the ball and the official wacked me for "deceiving" the players. Probably should've ejected me for my choice words in how I said I never left the court. He said it didn't matter. My next few words got me my only ejection in HS ball.

Forget this call.
+1

Many years ago it was a technical foul to leave the court for an unathorized reason to avoid a 3 sec call. Eventually the FED changed it to a violation in 9.3.3 Sit A. Just a another punishment doesn't fit the crime senario. I don't know why the OP above doesn't warrant the same consideration. IMO it should be moved from 10.3.2 and added in rule 9 along with the other.
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